4 cylinder turbo commodore

[xplosv57]

Back on topic, there was a very similar article in last weeks Cars Guide and according to that report, it suggested GMH will seriously be looking at diesel and LPG alternatives for the Commodore in coming years with specialised versions of their V6 for this !!! a V6 TD would be very interesting indeed as would a specially made factory 'full time' LPG powered car - I and others did suggest that idea previously, looks like people at GMH may think it's a good idea too

It mentions that LPG will be looked at more favorably than diesel in the future !

The article also confirms the existence of a twin turbo reduced capacity variant of GMH's new V6 which is already in production and used in China !!!

So definitely there's a TTV6 Commodore just over the horizon

That TT horizon has been coming up for ages now, was originally discussed for release with VZ, that Torana concept motor would be awesome, and would finally give a competitor to the XR6T!!

Turbo diesel would be a good thing, would cope with the VE weight and have decent performance and economy figures!!!

LPG though i'm not so sure of, gas is for barbecues lol!!!

The Falcon e-gas system is very good, but you do lose on a few kW's!!!

[USC]

LPG is rubbish. It is a natural gas and is still sourced from the ground.... it also produces less kws and stinks like hell.

Turbo diesel commodore would be fantastic but Im not against say a 5 cylinder turbo petrol engine like in the xr5T but tuned to produce much more power and torque.

hmm..twin turbo v6 used in china..there must be a reason why its the only place they have that engine... ..dodgy as.

[rjastra]

Natural gas isn't the same as LPG. I think LPG is a byproduct of oil refining.
Natural gas is what we use for hot water and cooking in the home. Comes from inland sources usually associated with coal seams etc.

There is already a TT version of the GM V6... it's found in a SAAB! 2.8L.

[InsaneAsylum]

i'm a big fan of turbo diesels, i hope to see more of them on the market

[Wraith]

Natural gas isn't the same as LPG. I think LPG is a byproduct of oil refining.
Natural gas is what we use for hot water and cooking in the home. Comes from inland sources usually associated with coal seams etc.

There is already a TT version of the GM V6... it's found in a SAAB! 2.8L.

Correct...

I already mentioned the reduced capacity GMH V6TT used in China, the one used by SAAB is yet another variant !!!

It is also used by Alfa Romeo and many others in Europe in N/A form - yep that's GMH's good ol V6 in there LOL, but in some cases, Alfa being one, they use their own intake, ecu, appendages etc.

All you guys knocking LPG - go read up on it 1st

The newer systems will deliver equal performance to petrol and actually make the engine run smoother and are much safer in terms of detonation !!! LPG loves compression and you would have no trouble running comp ratios of up to and over 16:1 !!!

My Bro has one of these new tech LPG systems on his sport Magna - he hasn't had it on the dyno, but just by the 'seat of the pants meter' it feels just as strong as when running on petrol...unlike the older systems which had a very noticeable loss of power...

The down side is the consumption, approx. half the range of petrol using the same volumes of either...

I'll have to look into exhaust emissions, but I believe toxic levels etc. are lower with LPG than with petrol or diesel...

[USC]

Alfas, Saabs are not renowned for having good engines... They are stylish, comfortable...quality is so so...