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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Wraith Click here to enlarge
    The above is in fact what's been done already !!!

    That's what the major advance forward was from carburetor to fuel injection and then a step further again by having an advanced ecu program to regulate the fuel/air feed to the minimum possible amount of fuel required to produce power and with the optimum timing without detonation...

    And it's worked !!! my old 5.7ltr HSV with 250kw had far lower fuel consumption than my older 160kw 5.0ltr VH SL/E Commodore !!!

    Once you've achieved the most frugul running conditions as listed above, the next obvious step is to ' turn off ' cylinders entirely to further save fuel...that's what the whole basic idea of 'Displacement On Demand' is all about...it just hasn't achieved desired results - but it's not dead in the water yet either Click here to enlarge
    Ange!!!!!!! Dammit!!!!!!! Click here to enlarge I'm gonna start speaking Italian soon Click here to enlarge

    What I'm meaning to say is, to combat air resistance, friction etc....you need X amount of FORCE, and that amount of FORCE can be provided by a Y amount of FUEL....and you can't change these X and Y no matter what DoD or whatever gimmick you use...understand what I'm saying now? Click here to enlarge Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bornwild Click here to enlarge
    Ange!!!!!!! Dammit!!!!!!! Click here to enlarge I'm gonna start speaking Italian soon Click here to enlarge

    What I'm meaning to say is, to combat air resistance, friction etc....you need X amount of FORCE, and that amount of FORCE can be provided by a Y amount of FUEL....and you can't change these X and Y no matter what DoD or whatever gimmick you use...understand what I'm saying now? Click here to enlarge Click here to enlarge
    Here you go:

    Ciò che sto per dire significato è, di lotta contro la resistenza dell'aria, attrito, ecc ... avete bisogno di X importo della forza, e che la quantità di forza può essere fornita da una Y quantità di carburante .... e non è possibile modificare queste X e Y non importa quale DoD gimmick o qualunque cosa si usa ... capire ciò che sto dicendo ora?

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    Hahahahaha LOL guys....USC that's an excellent translation - did you do that yourself or with assistance ??? I'm impressed Click here to enlarge

    BW I still don't understand you Click here to enlarge

    Can you write it up in German for me Click here to enlarge Click here to enlarge
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    You didn't translate gimmick into italian Click here to enlarge truchetto Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Wraith Click here to enlarge
    Can you write it up in German for me Click here to enlarge Click here to enlarge
    In German:

    Was ich bin Sinne zu sagen ist, zur Bekämpfung von Luft-Widerstand, Reibung usw. ... Sie brauchen X Betrag von Gewalt, und dass die Höhe der Kraft kann auch durch einen Y Menge Kraftstoff .... und man kann nicht Ändern Sie diese X-und Y-egal, was DoD Spielerei oder was auch immer Sie ... verstehen, was ich jetzt sagen?

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    LOL well done again, your using a translating package arn't you Click here to enlarge

    Yeh, BW not every word was picked up, but stil a very accurate translation Click here to enlarge
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    That german translation is very bad...Click here to enlarge
    You got romance. You got the boots. So, I just gotta ask. Can I get in your pants?

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    lol!! Nothing is better than translate.google.com

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    Back on topic, there was a very similar article in last weeks Cars Guide and according to that report, it suggested GMH will seriously be looking at diesel and LPG alternatives for the Commodore in coming years with specialised versions of their V6 for this !!! a V6 TD would be very interesting indeed as would a specially made factory 'full time' LPG powered car - I and others did suggest that idea previously, looks like people at GMH may think it's a good idea too Click here to enlarge

    It mentions that LPG will be looked at more favorably than diesel in the future !

    No mention at all of petrol turbo 4 potters which in my mind is still a ludicrous idea for a big family car like the Commodore...and I still think that will never happen...

    The article also confirms the existence of a twin turbo reduced capacity variant of GMH's new V6 which is already in production and used in China !!!

    So definitely there's a TTV6 Commodore just over the horizon Click here to enlarge
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    I still think the 2.0ltr turbocharged is a great idea, much better than the current crop of NA V6s
    You got romance. You got the boots. So, I just gotta ask. Can I get in your pants?

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