Bye Bye to the Falcon and Territory?? BS or real

[deviant]

Of course the next nail in the lid of Ford (and possibly Holden) big car market is the introduction of 'emissions tax'.

Ok so nothing has been said about it yet but the writing is on the wall...other countries have begun annual taxes based on a vehicles Kg of Co2/KM emissions as well as taxing peoples home emissions.

Krudd has spoken about emissions tax on energy useage and I believe Holden has just launched the displacement on demand system on their V8 engines...perhaps they have seen the writing to?

[HappySlapper82]

In those days it wasn't V8 Supercars. Was Group A or Group 3A for Australian purposes. They then replaced Group A/Group 3A with a new formula for the 5.0L V8's and 2.0Litres, and then these two categories were later split up to their own championships, one being V8 Supercars and the other being Super Touring Cars.

It was a much better format IMO. Aussie car manufacturers should have just grown some balls and taken on the turbo cars instead of taking the "I don't wanna play any more" approach and changing the rules forcing them out. As an ex. Imagine the Aussie cricket team being banned from competition cause no one can beat them?

[Ice]

Meh. About time really.

haha agreed !

[Wraith]

Hmmm, I don't really see what all the surprise is about - especially when talking about this topic in reference to the Falcon, it has been on shakey ground now because of poor sales for ages !!! remember that awful AU from almost a decade ago, it pretty much started the downhill slide and Ford Australia hasn't been able to turn the tide since...

However news of Ford Australia abandoning the Territory is new to me ???

If this does happen, it's a shame on many fronts - especially local industry, employment and economy...

It also takes away a strong element of competition that's kept GMH on its toes with the Commodore's evolution, with this gone, GMH may produce lesser exciting upgrades because there's no direct competition to beat...

IMHO O/A like them or not, this is NOT a good thing to happen to any car manufacturers business and I feel for them and all Ford fans if the Falcon will no longer exist

[Wraith]

It was a much better format IMO. Aussie car manufacturers should have just grown some balls and taken on the turbo cars instead of taking the "I don't wanna play any more" approach and changing the rules forcing them out. As an ex. Imagine the Aussie cricket team being banned from competition cause no one can beat them?

Are you serious

Your talking about 2 completely different things there...

Humans are humans, in sport they can only enhance themselves further by taking drugs and if caught there out !!!

In spec'd class car racing we're talking about mechanical machines with all manner of variables that completely transform and change their capabilities, you have to set down a set formula for each class - otherwise you'd have rocket powered sleds vs N/A engined scooters - think about it LOL

I can totally see the point of what's happened in the past in the V8 category, you have RWD N/A V8's and then you throw in forced inducted AWD vehicles - how can you possibly have a fair competion or comparison ??? it's ridiculous, unless it's stated as an 'open' competition or event like the many production car race events, but when you have a specialised category, it is just that, a specific category

[Apex]

IMO v8 supercars has been really boring since they changed the rules (1991) and took out the production class

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[KID_SRi]

In those days it wasn't V8 Supercars. Was Group A or Group 3A for Australian purposes. They then replaced Group A/Group 3A with a new formula for the 5.0L V8's and 2.0Litres, and then these two categories were later split up to their own championships, one being V8 Supercars and the other being Super Touring Cars.

Matt, You forgot the Group C Era.
Which let us see the R-32 Skyline GT-R, Cosworth Sierra RS500, BMW E30 M3, Etc on our Screens in the Late 80's to Early 90's

[littlered]

Matt, You forgot the Group C Era.
Which let us see the R-32 Skyline GT-R, Cosworth Sierra RS500, BMW E30 M3, Etc on our Screens in the Late 80's to Early 90's

ummm - wasn't that part of group A (1985-1992)

Group C ran from aboiut 72 to 85 and included Mazda RX7, Falcon, Commodore/Torana, Bluebird, Camraro, BMW 6 Series and a couple of others that I cannot remember. You get the idea though. Here is a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_C_(Australia)

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[MatsHolden]

Matt, You forgot the Group C Era.
Which let us see the R-32 Skyline GT-R, Cosworth Sierra RS500, BMW E30 M3, Etc on our Screens in the Late 80's to Early 90's

Pretty sure they were all Group A, not Group C...