Introducing the new HOLDEN EPICA

[Vectracious]

Followed an Epica yesterday, I must say that visually it's not quite there - got a fairly uninspirational tail

Yeah, I was following one in bad traffic on the freeway and I would have been staring at it for at least 5 minutes before I realised what it was. Completely anonymous. At least with the Vectra you knew it was a Vectra, and with the B - people would even think it was an Audi or BMW

[EL BURITO]

B that are taken care of still look good. C's are delisious in. the shape umm.

[MatsHolden]

BUT it's selling a lot better than the Vectra due to it's low pricing. They are nice car for people that aren't 'car people'.

[OZChris]

BUT it's selling a lot better than the Vectra due to it's low pricing. They are nice car for people that aren't 'car people'.

Anyone driven one yet? I have already heard people use lines like: "it's got a V6 like the Commodore" and "it's only slightly smaller than a Commodore". Be interesting what it drives like.

[MatsHolden]

Anyone driven one yet? I have already heard people use lines like: "it's got a V6 like the Commodore" and "it's only slightly smaller than a Commodore". Be interesting what it drives like.

lol V6 like a Commodore? It's got a straight 6, with the option of 2.0L 6 with 105kw or a 2.5L 6 with 115kw. The engine was designed and developed by Porsche, it's smooth but lacks torque.

[Calibrated]

- people would even think it was an Audi or BMW

I've had quite a few comments about my "BMW 850i"

lol...

[bornwild]

lol V6 like a Commodore? It's got a straight 6, with the option of 2.0L 6 with 105kw or a 2.5L 6 with 115kw. The engine was designed and developed by Porsche, it's smooth but lacks torque.

You sure about that Porsche thing?

[Vectracious]

You sure about that Porsche thing?

The Epica's engines were designed by Porsche's engineering division but there's not much Porsche about it other than refinement. The Epica's engine is silky smooth compared with these raucous fours but unfortunately that doesn't translate to power.

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...parisonID=1029

9th paragraph down though. Still a wank selling point though.

[bornwild]

Out of all those cars on that link, I like the Hyundai Sonata the best....it's design has the most class about it and the quality is the best out of those.

[MitchSRi]

I have driven one, and been tortured driving a Viva as well.

Daewoo .. WHY have you cursed the automotive world releasing these cars.

The Viva is shockingly cheap inside and out, the Epica is better inside, and doesnt actually ride too badly.

Biggest problem in both these cars (apart from the fact they should still be Opels and not GM Daewoos), are the gearboxes.

It has a mind of its own and seemingly jumps up and down on its merry way, not too sure exactly where it belongs.

Put foot in, turn around a corner and it isnt sure if it should shift up or down.

It's like an Inspector Morse mystery.. will I get shoved into my seat as it shifts down, redlines, then shifts back up... or will it shift up, and I drive around the corner with nothing accelerating at all.. it's all part of the mystery.

The Vectra (and Corsa for that matter) were great cars, and Holden were stupid to drop them for cheaper alternatives.

They are, and will never compare to well built Euro cars like Opels.