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They are great and last forever... EXCEPT! Yes they do mar, so if you're not correcting the paintwork or you have a softer paint, or a darker colour you'll see it right away. However i even noticed on VW/Audi paints that they also mar.

The Fine Grade Clays usually (such as Dodo, 3M, Clay Magic etc) are higher quality, gentler and made in Japan. All of us use normal clay bars, and even on customer cars when we detail we still use normal clay bars.
Fantastic, I'll stick to general clay barring as I have an obsidian black pearl subaru with softish paint. Worst combo.

Any advice as to which clay/lube combo will give me the best results without marring?