Opel Boss predictions

[JohnBu]

I said shit looking, not boring! Lol

The cars you mentioned at least looked like they were designed in the 00's..

Skoda's look a generation older.

I like the Octavia too (updated one only) but still looks old.


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[ChrisMaz]

If People are willing to buy Chery and great wall. Its case in point people don't give a crap about the looks of the car, its about a competitive price point that will attract buyers.

Which WILL be rather difficult in my eyes as they are battling an extremely well established brand (VW)
As vectracious said, they'll have to advertise advertise advertise, do some decent P.R stunts around town and get people test driving cars.

Opel Did confirm that they'll be attending the Sydney 2012 motorshow, so a quality start from brand awareness.

[poita]

They could give the local forum owner one to test drive, for say 12 months or so

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[JohnBu]

The thing about VW is, questionable reliability aside, is they make quality cars. Interiors are excellent, so is fit and finish. They drive well too.

The numerous car of the year awards don't hurt either.

Having said that I hope Opel does well... but like any car they will need time to establish themselves.. so they will need to position themselves price wise lower than VW.

One thing I think will help them immensely is a longer warranty of say 5 years and fixed priced servicing for say 3 years like Mitsubishi.

I know that's why a lot of people are hesitant of euro cars- reliability woes outside warranty and service cost.

The fixed price service doesn't have to be mega cheap like Toyota ($120!) but even at $200 per 15,000km service would turn a profit for the dealer for what is an oil change, filter change.

5 year warranties certainly haven't hurt Hyundai.. Kia (owned by Hyundai) offer 7 ****ing years warranty in Europe!!!

[Wraith]

Simple reason why Skoda isn't more popular is that they look rubbish.

Shit looking cars don't sell well as they should.


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Totally agree on your point there John, especially for people who want more in a car than just an A to B tool...

Looks and aesthetic appeal and or desirabilty sells product, ie. any product

[Wraith]

If People are willing to buy Chery and great wall. Its case in point people don't give a crap about the looks of the car, its about a competitive price point that will attract buyers.

Which WILL be rather difficult in my eyes as they are battling an extremely well established brand (VW)
As vectracious said, they'll have to advertise advertise advertise, do some decent P.R stunts around town and get people test driving cars.

Opel Did confirm that they'll be attending the Sydney 2012 motorshow, so a quality start from brand awareness.

Also agree.

That's why for eg. Hyundai and sister company Kia are doing so well...

Good looking product range, very decent warranty terms and price points...

[sooty]

The thing about VW is, questionable reliability aside, is they make quality cars. Interiors are excellent, so is fit and finish. They drive well too.

Having come from an MY06 Jetta to a MY10 Octavia though i can tell you the interior and fit and finish is identical, if not better. i know the skoda front can be a little....different lol, but the back of the wagon looks awesome, light years ahead of the golf wagon.
It's all just about the fact that everyone knows someone who has had a golf, and they liked it, so they go look at it. No1 knows anyone who has a skoda, despite the fact they're just vw's in drag, so no1 would ever go to a dealership to test them out

[gmonkey]

am i the only one that thinks VW styling department is acctually rather dull and in comparision with skoda are on par with each other? I think stying wise coming out of Euro mainstream at moment renault is winning in "modern" styling. The VW is just the same styling over and over and over, there not been a groundbreaking shape since Golf MK1. Yes the Golf R looks nice, but put it against the OPC Astra or Renault Megane Trophee it just looks bland to me.

If styling is the selling point Opel > VW. Opel will need to offer a semi luxury interior though to take a chunk outta VW i think. And i do think opel will survive... the Astra G was the biggest selling car over here, i dont see why people who loved the old wont love the new

[JMZ]

And i do think opel will survive... the Astra G was the biggest selling car over here, i dont see why people who loved the old wont love the new

But unfortunatley we on this site are the few that realise that we actually drive Opels. Go ask the average "Holden" Astra driver if they know that their car is actually European and I reckon you'd get a slightly surprised response.

Average Joe who drives an Astra G today won't be thinking "you' beauty, Opel is coming to Austalia, I can upgrade to a new Astra then!"

[gmonkey]

with the right advert people will know... showing the progression over the years of the astra, people will see the G or F and peice the puzzle together (you'd hope)

and a lot of people do upgrade from the car they already drive (if they enjoyed it) and lots of people have enjoyed the astra G and H... Look at VW drivers a lot of them have gone through the different Mark levels or even commodore/camry/falcon drivers, always buy what they know