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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sooty Click here to enlarge
    As he goes to spin the totem on the sink, Saito comes up behind him and interupts him and the totem just falls onto the ground, falling over. So basically cobb never gets confirmation that he actually woke up.
    Agreed, but WE the viewer get the confirmation, so it's certainly NOT a dream becuase the totem in fact tumbles over.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sooty Click here to enlarge
    PS i went and saw the movie a second time just to pick up on this point lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sooty Click here to enlarge
    that's 3 layers up though. who knows the dependence of kicks on level. Also in that kick they were asleep, and woke up due to the kick in the level above (reality), for that fall to have woken him up, first he would have had to have been asleep in the next level which they never reached unless you call limbo that next level, and he was never there.
    you lost me......
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    for reference purposes, these are the levels IMO.

    Reality
    Level 1 - White Van
    Level 2 - Zero Gravity
    Level 3 - Snow
    Level 4 - Limbo / Cobb and Mal's dream world
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    **SPOILER** Inception - Theories, questions and discussion

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jimbow86

    Agreed, but WE the viewer get the confirmation, so it's certainly NOT a dream
    No, because it isn't spun properly, it's not like it spins in it's normal gyroscopic manner then falls over. There's no test performed, we don't know he woke up.

    As for my other point. Ok, so say in the testing, reality is level 1, and the dream is level 2. To wake up from level 2, the sensation of falling occurs in level 1.

    Now in your snow example, the sensation of falling occurs in the bottom most dream, which would only act as a kick if there were in fact a dream layer below that. (the person has to be dreaming/corpse like) in the level for the kick to work.
    Ie unconscious on the plane (timer runs out on plane, waking them up)
    Unconcsious in the van (falling van wakes up lift)
    Unconscious in the lift (falling lift wakes up snow)
    So you can see falling in the snow has no level below it to wake up
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    ok so we assume that Fischer and Architect didn't just fall from the building, they fell to their death to get out of limbo. got it now.

    on another point, it would be impossible for the lift / elevator to fall in zero gravity therfore the punch from the C4's shockwave must have provided the kick.
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    **SPOILER** Inception - Theories, questions and discussion

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jimbow86
    ok so we assume that Fischer and Architect didn't just fall from the building, they fell to their death to get out of limbo. got it now.

    on another point, it would be impossible for the lift / elevator to fall in zero gravity therfore the punch from the C4's shockwave must have provided the kick.
    Lol, you got it!
    As for the c4 bit, I was kinda sceptical, that is the idea that the force of the explosion pushed it, but it shoulda just blown the crap out of the lift Click here to enlarge
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    haha yeah true.

    i'd rate the movie cose to a 9 / 10.

    that timeline is su-weet!
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    **SPOILER** Inception - Theories, questions and discussion

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jimbow86
    haha yeah true.

    i'd rate the movie cose to a 9 / 10.
    Despite the minor flaws I loved it, it's def in my top 5 list
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