VE MkII Commodore

[Wraith]

It's backup up with a 6 speed auto with a wider spread of ratios than the old 4 speed/3.6L edition.

290Nm is plenty:
Omega 1670kg (after weightloss of new engine)
Accord Euro 1605kg and 230Nm at 4200rpm
Mazda 6 1470kg and 225 Nm at 4000 rpm

The Omega has a better weight to Nm ratio than both these cars and no one complains about these vehicles being slow.

Yep, that's good honest sense there but you forget rj - 'almost' everyone here is a Commodore hater, in fact from all the crap in most threads, it comes in a close 2nd to hating anything that's non-Euro

[Shay]

195kw from a stock 3L is pretty dam good (for gm)
remember in 2000 the VT SS only made 220kw @ 5000rpm, from a 5.7L

this engine, from specs alone has sold me, so much more efficient both fuel and power.

[Wraith]

195kw from a stock 3L is pretty dam good (for gm)
remember in 2000 the VT SS only made 220kw @ 5000rpm, from a 5.7L

this engine, from specs alone has sold me, so much more efficient both fuel and power.

It's way better than the old 3.0ltr of the VL and more than competitive to other modern 3.0ltr IL6 and V6 engines as well...

Yes, the Commodore weighs more than some other modern vehicles with 3.0ltr 6 cylinder powerplants, but I'm sure with the combination of good gearing and good engine technology and ecu management, it'll be just fine...

[Hackstra]

Why all commodore haters? If you hate commodore just coz of the VL...shame ahah

[Shay]

VL is cool...
such a good shape, and the jap engine is so tuneable/turbable.
i agree that half the people that drive them are borderline retarded,, but thats not the cars fault

[boorny88]

well ford il6 190 to 200kw is a 4 litre and this is a 3 ltr and more power and effeincy they gotta do something right for once lets hope it goes well.

[boorny88]

you got a good point there shay most are borderline retarded but some r just plain stupid in there actions and its not the cars fault either

[Hackstra]

Exactly dont hate the car hate the driver and their crazy ideas!

[mania]

I am of the suspicion that Holden overrate their Commodore engines though, either that or they have some ridiculously inefficient drivetrains. Just from the stock dynos I've seen, you normally need to add around 30% to get back to supposed flywheel power. Kind of surprised their drivetrains don't melt losing all that to heat..

[DirtyHarry]

I am of the suspicion that Holden overrate their Commodore engines though, either that or they have some ridiculously inefficient drivetrains. Just from the stock dynos I've seen, you normally need to add around 30% to get back to supposed flywheel power. Kind of surprised their drivetrains don't melt losing all that to heat..

actually ive been told the same thing about ford and how they rate their engine power etc etc