How the R35 is built

[Neeko]

I read that the engine needs to be stripped down every 12 months to inspect the plasma bores. Anyone know if this is true?

what are plasma bores

[kabel]

I think this may be a myth.

Wheels or Motor Mag did a comparision with a 911T for a years runnin costs with a few track days thrown in.

The GT-R was about 10k and the 911T half that, bear in mind the 911 had twice the initial purchase price of a GTR.

Have the article somewhere just not at hand.Tyres were expensive as were fluids and brakes.

You could almost guarantee though that not all GT-R`s will see track days and service costs will be less.
If you have the means to afford a 180k purchase price and insurance, then running costs should not be an issue.

[Wraith]

I read that the engine needs to be stripped down every 12 months to inspect the plasma bores. Anyone know if this is true?

Absolute rubbish !

You know this is the same kind of crap that comes up all the time from people who simply hate or fear anything that's better or superior to what they like...not talking about you nigelh, but whoever the dingbats were who make up crap like that to begin with...probably upset brand snob Porker owners who've paid nearly 400k for a range topping 911 and are scared to encounter an R35 on the road

The 'inspection interval' for the 'ceramic plasma' bore coating is at every 100,000km...

As for relining costs if and when required, Kabel has answered that one already - if your the type of person who buys a 150k or 350k vehicle and expect to never have to pay to keep it going when specialised items require it, somethings wrong with that person

[DirtyHarry]

nah...if they need to recoat it, then youll just see the car up for sale with around 100,000km on the clock...thats when Habib from Bankstown will buy it and put a fully sik exhaust and stereo in it and hang out at mcdonalds or go drag racing at wetherill park industrial estate.

[Wraith]

what are plasma bores

In short, it's a ceramic based material that's applied to the lining of the bores to make them better in terms of less friction and heat build up and also makes them last longer when 'interfaced' with piston rings of certain material types...

The method by which it is applied is the 'plasma' part of the equation - hence plasma or plasma ceramic bores...that's a brief description.

Note, it's not something new either, but it is new for it to be used in this way on a mass produced vehicle...

My race car of over 20 years ago had plasma ceramic coated pistions ! done as an aftermarket procedure...

It's something alot of other hi end manufacturers will also do in time (amongst adopting or copying many other innovations of the R35) so lets see what all the knockers have to say when the same thing is part of their vehicles LOL...

[Wraith]

nah...if they need to recoat it, then youll just see the car up for sale with around 100,000km on the clock...thats when Habib from Bankstown will buy it and put a fully sik exhaust and stereo in it and hang out at mcdonalds or go drag racing at wetherill park industrial estate.

Unfortunately this is alot of the current demographic of older imported models of the GT-R...

After expensive hi po cars age and devalue, you'll get all sorts of sods owning them...happens to all car types except those that stay out of reach price wise...

[Neeko]

In short, it's a ceramic based material that's applied to the lining of the bores to make them better in terms of less friction and heat build up and also makes them last longer when 'interfaced' with piston rings of certain material types...

The method by which it is applied is the 'plasma' part of the equation - hence plasma or plasma ceramic bores...that's a brief description.

Note, it's not something new either, but it is new for it to be used in this way on a mass produced vehicle...

My race car of over 20 years ago had plasma ceramic coated pistions ! done as an aftermarket procedure...

It's something alot of other hi end manufacturers will also do in time (amongst adopting or copying many other innovations of the R35) so lets see what all the knockers have to say when the same thing is part of their vehicles LOL...

thanks Ange
that explains it.

[kabel]

Absolute rubbish !

You know this is the same kind of crap that comes up all the time from people who simply hate or fear anything that's better or superior to what they like...not talking about you nigelh, but whoever the dingbats were who make up crap like that to begin with...probably upset brand snob Porker owners who've paid nearly 400k for a range topping 911 and are scared to encounter an R35 on the road

The 'inspection interval' for the 'ceramic plasma' bore coating is at every 100,000km...

As for relining costs if and when required, Kabel has answered that one already - if your the type of person who buys a 150k or 350k vehicle and expect to never have to pay to keep it going when specialised items require it, somethings wrong with that person

Ditto for any high end products.........expect higher running costs !
And having said that 100,000 kms may be six or seven years for some owners.

On another note.
I look forward to Targa West next week where Steve Jones will be putting his R-35 up against Tony Quinn in his R-35

[Neeko]

hope the R35 never becomes a bogan car. Imagine all the tools wrapped around trees and poles!

[poita]

hope the R35 never becomes a bogan car. Imagine all the tools wrapped around trees and poles!

well it may not be a bad thing, natural selection