this is me caring....nup still dont care.. its a mazda 3 its ugly as a donkeys turd and has a really good engine, that really is it... all they are doing is argueing about other cars now... yes there is other cars out there that maybe better looking but sacrifice a bit of power, BIG WHOOP isnt this basically how the car market works in the first place?? its down to a matter of oppinion of the beholder, no real need to argue 21 pages over how the golf is better, no wait the civic is better...