Toyota Camey Hybrid

[bornwild]

Here is a keyword to our future:

Diesel.

[bornwild]

Erm if you feel like it??

Dude...there is no such thing as free energy.

[Huhness]

Dude...there is no such thing as free energy.

Why?

Also why is diesel the future??

And Bio Diesel is more evil than Oil! Land which can be used to grow crops for food will be used for Bio Fuel and then we'll have nothing to eat.. I know what i'd rather have on my plate..

[Tigra]

Could think of much better things the Government could have spent that money on!

[poita]

like skidpans and driving schools

[bornwild]

Why?

Also why is diesel the future??

And Bio Diesel is more evil than Oil! Land which can be used to grow crops for food will be used for Bio Fuel and then we'll have nothing to eat.. I know what i'd rather have on my plate..

Go do some thermodynamics study and you'll see why.

Energy can't be created nor destroyed. Remember that

Biodiesel?? It's grown on land which was used for nothing prior to it, so no harm done there! How about power stations? They are built on land which could have been used for crops etc. too!!!

[oneightoo]

Biodiesel?? It's grown on land which was used for nothing prior to it, so no harm done there! How about power stations? They are built on land which could have been used for crops etc. too!!!

except in brazil they are destroying half their rainforest to make way for it.. considering theres a theory that depending on how much rain fall there is in the amazon it will determine what sort of rainfall we get in australia, i say **** bio diesel and stop land clearing!

[bornwild]

So, what impact would growing biodiesel in the amazon have on rainfall?

It's just replacing a plant with a different kind of plant...admittedly, perhaps it's a lot smaller but nevertheless still consuming CO2 and producing O2 and the byproducts.

[oneightoo]

So, what impact would growing biodiesel in the amazon have on rainfall?

It's just replacing a plant with a different kind of plant...admittedly, perhaps it's a lot smaller but nevertheless still consuming CO2 and producing O2 and the byproducts.

read this article:

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/aboutus/ne...s-reduces-rain

you'll find it's not such a good idea..

but as i said earlier, its a theory at the moment.. there have been "studies" in to it, and some guys in white coats claim it to be true..

i like this line especially

Trees access water deep in the ground and hold the moisture in their canopies. They absorb sunlight and emit heat which creates thermal currents that take the moisture from the leaves up into the atmosphere, where it condenses as rain.

and considering brazil fells areas as large as jamaica every year, thats a lot of missing rainfall....

do you still believe it's a better idea to lop tree's for more land for production of bio-diesel?

im not saying a tree huggin hippy, i'm just saying it's a dumb idea to mess with the rainforest that we really do need and replace it with something that just going to pollute anyway..

[dieselhead]

Just wondering if the purchase of a hybrid Camry will be means tested, just like the solar panels? Tell you what, this new government of our has no idea about what promised, what is doing or about the impact of their actions. How green were they a year ago? And now, when they're supposed to implement all that stuff, all they can do is take pictures next to a stupid fridge with batteries. Kevin '07? I'd say rather Kevin '87

I agree, biodiesel is just as wrong as ethanol/methanol. Synthetic diesel on the other hand looks very promising to a country like Australia, rich in gas.