Commodores suck - petrol

[USC]

The future is not diesels or commodores but hydrogen cars.

[sooty]

driving in a 4cyl reving its tits out at 110km,

Pretty sure it sits at around 1200rpm at 110km/h...and only 4000rpm at 240 lol....wow...that's not even getting into the red line domain of a normal petrol...
Stupid stereotypes

[digifish]

the Commodore can carry 5 adults in comfort... That's true, but only if one of the passengers has no legs, ha ha!
C'mon guys, we all know this sort of car is endangered species...

I am 197 cm (6"2) and fit easily in the back of the Astra with headroom to spare.

The Golf has about as much interior space as the Commorode BTW.

The Commodore is dumb, particularly when compared to cars like the Golf 2.0 TDI (that will tow a boat all day BTW).

digifish

[sooty]

6'2" is 187...not 197 lol

[Black Nugget]

I am 197 cm (6"2) and fit easily in the back of the Astra with headroom to spare.

The Golf has about as much interior space as the Commorode BTW.

The Commodore is dumb, particularly when compared to cars like the Golf 2.0 TDI (that will tow a boat all day BTW).

digifish

I agree there is no excuse to say just because you have a family u need a commodore. It's the whole australian perspective thing, in europe an astra is a mid sized car here it is a small car.

same applies for those who warrant 4wd pruchases cas they"tow stuff"

[dieselhead]

Pretty sure it sits at around 1200rpm at 110km/h...and only 4000rpm at 240 lol....wow...that's not even getting into the red line domain of a normal petrol...
Stupid stereotypes

well, mine does 2,200 rpm at 120 km/h. would you agree that's hardly revving its head of. moreover, at that speed, on cruise in 6th, on a flat road, it averages 4.7 l/100km.

I would add one more thing: cars like Astra and the Golf, with Diesel engines, are have proved themselves as reliable, solid cars, with huge sales numbers and high resale value not only here but all over the world. The VE Commodore, launched only last year, has a long, long way to go...

[SRI Wannabe]

Arrr this thread has proven to be very amusing and no I'm not going to bite . Out of all this USC made very valid point, future is hydrogen/ electric.

[sooty]

Sorry...typo lol...meant to write 2200

[tuzinski]

LOL.
Commodore = Petrol Whores
Astra = Normal People
Diesel's = Green'ies [= [=

we have a astra(mine) and commodore(mums) in the family, and i like the astra better, easier to park, easier to steer, might not have a the BOLD view of a commo but still its good.
or maybe im just sick of most p platers having them.

[dieselhead]

Who's future is that? Electric cars, with 85% power generation based on coal burning, would be a curse rather that a solution here, down under. Hydrogen is not even in its infancy yet, reliable solutions could be 20 years away. In the meantime we still need to move, don't we? Obvious solutions are lighter cars, so driving smaller cars is one handy option. The engine efficiency needs to improve significantly, too. Like it or not, Diesel turns more fuel into movement than petrols. Modern Diesel engines using synthetic fuel is a viable alternative to Australia because of the huge natural gas resources. Hydrogen? Sure, one day, by 2050!