08 WRX STi

[Wraith]

Then what ever springs you have are clearly not much better than stock. The eibachs on mine made a VERY noticable difference.

lowering a cars centre of gravity can make or break the handling, manufacturer's do all sorts of crap to play with it to improve handling, such as aluminium roof on some audi/bmw/evo's to save about ~8kg and lower the c.o.g 0.5cm..they dont do it for no reason.

likewise go too low and it will be worse.

Agree with the above, both on my Astra convertible and Calibra, the addition of Eibach springs has made a very noticeable difference to handling and on my Calibra, the ride comfort has also improved !!!

Whether you fit a set of good or bad aftermarket springs and or shocks you'll notice a difference one way or the other....I done this to sooo many cars, the same case for all !!!

[Wraith]

Story of my life.

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I have travelled the world, lived in many countries, worked in heaps of different roles and experienced things which many people cant believe or comprehend. You would not believe how many times people have called me a lair/idoit when i have told them things i have done in my own experience, or try and instruct them how to do something in a way better than they are...

I am not saying i know everything, far from it, i know jack shit in the grand scheme of things.

I have ended up in a heated argument before with someone who could not be convinced the the sun was bigger than the moon. I have had to argue that the moons gravity causes the tides(they were trying to tell me it was evaporation and then rain filling back up the ocean...)

Seriously...

People with closed minds are the reason we have wars.
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[on topic]

New sti is growing on me...

+1

Last line regarding 'closed or narrow minded' people is so true !

Oh the new Sti is growing on me too

[rusole21]

Hahahahha well well. That was excellent! Cbrmale your a funny one. If you get the oportunity to drive a wrx then please do so. If you are able to give it some stick i assure you it will not give in before you!

[Apex]

Agree with the above, both on my Astra convertible and Calibra, the addition of Eibach springs has made a very noticeable difference to handling and on my Calibra, the ride comfort has also improved !!!

Whether you fit a set of good or bad aftermarket springs and or shocks you'll notice a difference one way or the other....I done this to sooo many cars, the same case for all !!!

They work well for me on a track or a very smooth road but by fitting them all I have essentially done is shortened the shock travel and intern made the shocks work over time to level out bumps not to mention the change in over all geometry. It looks cool though!

[entice]

not necessarily true...

you've also altered the rebound speed, and cycle.. (not necessarily the damping rate as you retained standard dampers)

this makes a big difference to cornering, slalom, and midcorner nasties...

[Apex]

not necessarily true...

you've also altered the rebound speed, and cycle.. (not necessarily the damping rate as you retained standard dampers)

this makes a big difference to cornering, slalom, and midcorner nasties...

That’s what I was trying to say when I said dampers working overtime ,meaning they are not made for lowering springs, the damping rate is controlled threw the IDS so maybe this is the reason the car handles only marginally better than stock? Coilovers or a matched spring and shock combo (as I have done with my other car) would be the ultimate solution.

Would you say lowering springs alone would positively change the way a car handles overall, or would you say its case specific? I would say they would they would make a more dramatic difference on a car like Pauls 1.4 Barina than say a BMW M3.

[entice]

if you have the time, try:

http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets.html

it's an education.

[Geebs]

The AH is a good car m8 but your stretching it with a claim like that. (unless you are "The Stig" lol)

I have just seen this post. I also think to say an AH Astra handles better than a rexxie is ludicrous. I have owned both and based on stock, I think one must have rocks in their head to think the AH is a better handler than a rexxie.

[Apex]

if you have the time, try:

http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets.html

it's an education.

Wow that’s heavy! Cheers for the link. Will have a read when I get to work on Monday

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i like cake

cake is heaps better than lamb

Cakes good but my lamb is better… but im a lambfanboy haha.

[blueraven]

Would you say lowering springs alone would positively change the way a car handles overall, or would you say its case specific? I would say they would they would make a more dramatic difference on a car like Pauls 1.4 Barina than say a BMW M3.

You keep saying lowering springs, i would say there are a few types of spring. Lowering springs as you say, i put in the category 'all show no go'...like king springs..

performance or sport springs may be lower, but lower is not all they do. Spring technology can be alot more high tech than most people think, especially when you start looking at progressive rate springs, hot vs cold wound etc etc.

so i sort of agree with you, but disagree at the same time. Oh and obviously a car that handles well to begin with(m3) wont gain much from a better set of springs, but if they are avg (like a barina) then the difference will be significant....