The Next Barina.. (more Daewoo crap!)

[cyclonic]

haha I was partly joking but it does make sense...what do you want more from a $13k brand new car? I reckon it looks alright, goes alright and hopefully will last for a while like daihatsu charades!

Holden wants profitable vehicles not reliable ones. I beg to differ with your assessment, but the car is ugly, slow and badly built. It won't last long at all. I utterly HATE it.

More specifically, what's with GM Holden? - GM Europe (Saab/Opel) are still making cars At the moment, just the Astra variants and the Saab range. So far we've lost the Barina (Corsa), Calibra, Combo, Tigra, Vectra, Zafira. Although we have gained the Captiva MaXX (Opel Antara).

Profits and current covnersion rates. The European stuff is simply too expensive for Holden to sell at what they deem to be a profit. The Captiva MaXX Daewoo designed and built, with tweaks by Opel.

[Shaun]

Yes, it'll sell.. but its still a second rate, badly built, uncrashworthy pile of poo. The TK has been responsible for a sharp decline in XC resale values and now some people are confusing the two. Oh well... Rant over!

I doubt the TK is responsable for it in the sense that its cheaper car. The TS astra resale value dropped the moment the AH was released. The XC resale value would have dropped because a new model entered the market. This happens with ALL cars.

As for crash testing wait and see when the test are carried out then comment. As this is a New design. One that Holden have had more say in.

As for everyone else who crys about there beloved " BARINA " being imported from Asia. GET OVER IT(thats not directed to all that have posted in this thread but in the pass with there baby crys). . Look at the big picture. Its Busniess. This is why you are all on the forum And not on the Board of directors of GM-H or GM. When your trying to sell into a cut throat market in the the small car segment and price is what sells these cars then its smart busniess sense to Do what Holden have done.

And i wouldnt have said the XC was overly well built. Remember they are about 8,000 euro car back in there day. Cheap german small car .

[CJB]

I actually like it. I wouldnt buy one, but I like it, cosmetically speaking.

When is it likely to be sold here?

[bornwild]

Looks like a minor facelift....Still a piece of shit, or as cyclonic put it "Still as ugly as a hat full of arseholes I think..."

[oneightoo]

for 13k find me a better looking brand new car..

it's cheap..

it's korean..

whooppee doo..

we have this same arguement everytime something new comes out..

[Wraith]

Front end grille looks very Golf-ish....

Regardles of price and value for money, definitely NOT for me thanks

[SIMid]

for 13k find me a better looking brand new car..

it's cheap..

it's korean..

whooppee doo..

we have this same arguement everytime something new comes out..

*LOLOL*

Not worth commenting on this mode of transport.

[digifish]

It will sell. The price is what decides if its going to sell. The Barina now sits in a price driven market.Something the GM Europe Sourced Barina could never do. But you never know . Holden could go back to the GM Soruced Barina . But the cost wont be 13k. It will be about 15-16k for the entry level.

The thing is that they are hardly selling any new Barinas, Vivas or Epicas ... while the Astra is about #5 or 6 in the top ten all last year.

Ford seems to be following the Holden of old, by importing (or about to import) all the euro models. Festiva ($16-24K), Focus (19-36K), Mondeo...

I think Holden just made a mistake. I think that they opted out of the Euro models at exactly the wrong time, the market is transitioning to smaller cars, and people have more money to spend in this segment than they used to. I can't see how they are making more money with the new Barina than they did with old (for example).

BTW: the new Mondeo is a smart looking car...

http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/ContentServer?cid=1163399223417&pagename=FOA%2FDFY Page%2FFullwidth1024&c=DFYPage

digifish

[USC]

Not for me either....stay away from Korean cars...I owned a 1997 Hyundai elantra when I was at uni...piece of junk...everything broke down from starter motor to power window motor to automatic transmission.....

[bornwild]

BTW: the new Mondeo is a smart looking car...

http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Conte...1024&c=DFYPage

digifish

As a matter of fact, if you read German reviews(whom I trust more than my own mother's word), it's the best car in it's class(and price-range) being sold currently in the market.

It's even better than a VW Passat.


I've had the pleasure of sitting in one at the Ford HQ in Campbellfield....it feels more like a car you pay $70k-$100k for than a budget 'mid-sized' saloon. It screams QUALITY at you. Will definitely be looking at one of them as a replacement for my Astra, once I get my full licence that is.