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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rjastra Click here to enlarge


    The problem I have with this site is it's implying that the authorities are inappropriately focusing on speed as an issue (~32% of all crashes) and that drink-driving (31%) and not wearing a seatbelt (20%), inattention in driveways and intersections are major causes too.

    They suggest that the laws are 'dumbed down'...and there is a 'truth'...

    http://www.crashprevention.com.au/main_pages/cpa_awful_truth.html

    However last time I looked drink driving and not wearing a seatbelt also get you into big trouble with Mr Plod and are regularly the focus of campaigns, as are fatigue, stop-signs etc...

    I think it's disingenuous at best to say the authorities are somehow skewing the law.

    ...and while I think we need some clear definitions of 'speed' and it's role in accidents, 32% certainly looks like a major factor to me and worthy of modification as it's cheap (no, profitable!) to police Click here to enlarge

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    Statistics can be made to read how you want

    ie. Did speed have a facton in the accident? yes, why? because he was moving. meaning, if you wernt moving their probably wouldnt have been an accident. Also doesnt cover whether the 'speed' was within the limit or not, just that it was a factor.
    Similar to all the gun fatality stats they raved on about, they didnt differentiate between a malicious shooting (murder/homicide) and suicide, just that the death involved a gun.

    I think the majority of accidents are caused by either fatigue or distraction, neither of which can be tested for and can rarely proven anyway, as you cant test for either. The adrenaline rush alone would eliminate the fatigue.

    Eg guy hits a tree, fatality; Was he asleep with the cruise control on, or did he swerve from something? If there is no witnesses or evidence to prove otherwise, all they can say is that speed was a factor in it.
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    Harold Scuby from Pedestrian Council would love that site.

    Its a fact and a well know one (that those without blinkers know). Speed as a sole component can't, and never can kill someone.

    However it can be a contributing factor.

    In an ideal world with ideal stats, there should NEVER be a recorded death due to "speed", because it cannot happen.

    Inability to control a vehicle, inattention, chopping and changing lanes, not driving to conditions, they'll all kill you, and speeding will exacibate whatever you hit (at the bottom line), but at the end of the day only one thing causes an accident to occur. A person behind a wheel.

    A speeding vehicle doesnt cause an accident... a person who cant control said vehicle at that speed does.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MitchSRi Click here to enlarge
    Harold Scuby from Pedestrian Council would love that site.

    Its a fact and a well know one (that those without blinkers know). Speed as a sole component can't, and never can kill someone.

    However it can be a contributing factor.

    In an ideal world with ideal stats, there should NEVER be a recorded death due to "speed", because it cannot happen.

    Inability to control a vehicle, inattention, chopping and changing lanes, not driving to conditions, they'll all kill you, and speeding will exacibate whatever you hit (at the bottom line), but at the end of the day only one thing causes an accident to occur. A person behind a wheel.

    A speeding vehicle doesnt cause an accident... a person who cant control said vehicle at that speed does.
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    Wanna see an interesting site? Feel the need for more stats? Have a look at this one...

    http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock.swf
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dieselhead Click here to enlarge
    Wanna see an interesting site? Feel the need for more stats? Have a look at this one...

    http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock.swf
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