Diesel>Petrol

[bornwild]

Before you go 'dohhhh' read this...if you understand german

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...2922_14387.hbs

But I'll translate it.

You know the 335d(twin-turbo diesel) that BMW has in Europe? The one with 580Nm?

Yeah, stupid amount of torque...anyhow, BMW has put that sequential bi-turbo technique into their 2.0L diesel and guess the results?

150kw(204bhp)@4,400rpm and 400Nm@2,000rpm

Imagine that power in an Astra........*masturbates*

edit: extra link in english

http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm...mics-in-detail

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[DirtyHarry]

you could drag a wrx up a hill and kick its ass

[bornwild]

you could drag a wrx up a hill and kick its ass

You could probably drag it in a straight line and still kick its arse


BMW:iloveyou::clap:

[Wraith]

You could get a petrol turbo to give those figures and even better with the correct upgrade/tune.

O/S there's a VXR high torque upgrade, which gives a total of 467nm and developes 400nm from around 2500-3000rpm.

The same tune also gives you 228kw !

The oiler's no match, but on the flip side, it will give you much better range and lower fuel running costs

I believe there's also a local diesel tune, for the AH which developes 147kw and 420nm.

[dieselhead]

my tuned 1.9 CDTI has about 147 kW and 400 Nm. who needs a beamer?
see here (the tuned kW power figure is wrong, read 200 PS)
http://www.dieseltuninguk.com/vehicl...e=1.9+CDTI+16V

i bet the Astra is also lighter than a 3 series.
all that torque, starting 2,000 rpm... very, very intoxicating thing i tell ya!

[bornwild]

Yeah but this is from stock, so no warranty voiding or insurance premiums and it's in a 1 series, namely the 120d.....plus it's rear wheel drive

I've heard of DTUK and yeah it is amazing

[dieselhead]

yeah, the BMW is stock but will cost 3X the Astra. if you can afford it, go and get one. meantime i'll be driving my angry oiler, thankyou very much
don't see what the warranty problem is, since it takes minutes to remove the tuning box, haha

[digifish]

my tuned 1.9 CDTI has about 147 kW and 400 Nm. who needs a beamer?
see here (the tuned kW power figure is wrong, read 200 PS)
http://www.dieseltuninguk.com/vehicl...e=1.9+CDTI+16V

i bet the Astra is also lighter than a 3 series.
all that torque, starting 2,000 rpm... very, very intoxicating thing i tell ya!

Hmmm...I really am waiting for your clutch and or gearbox to go 'PING!'...I worry about the stock torque and power

digifish

[digifish]

O/S there's a VXR high torque upgrade, which gives a total of 467nm and developes 400nm from around 2500-3000rpm.

The same tune also gives you 228kw !

The oiler's no match, but on the flip side, it will give you much better range and lower fuel running costs

I believe there's also a local diesel tune, for the AH which developes 147kw and 420nm.

I really think that is over-stretching the internals of the Astra petrol engine. If I had the choice (which I do and I am saying no), I'd take the tuned diesel over the VXR any day. The VXR engine and drivetrain really won't last long in that state of tune.

digifish

[dieselhead]

the clutch will handle 400Nm, no worries there. check the 888s Astras in UK-not a single issue so far, and rest assured those cars are being driven hard. can't see how the gearbox would be damaged since the clutch would die first anyway. if i was to fit a heavy duty clutch, the the gearbox would be at risk, no question about that. but i won't do it.
the setting i've got is the highest i would ever go for in this car. let's not forget, those high figures are really only peaks that are not normaly reached when driving on the road. not if you care about your licence one bit... don't plan to belt the car every weekend on racetracks either.
but let me tell you, that torque feels sooo goood, just accelerate and bang! off she goes