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3rd May 2011, 03:54 PM
chrissn89

A 3" dump pipe will be big enough and you wont have any issues with hitting or rubbing. I dont think anyone has gone bigger than 3" would be a waste of money in my opinion.
3rd May 2011, 04:09 PM
guy 27

Welcome to OA.
3rd May 2011, 04:12 PM
nick_sixx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurb608

Welcome to the site mate. Very nice choice of car :D (Yes, i'm biased).

As said, get a whiteline adjustable rear sway bar on it, it completely transforms how the car drives around corners as you can dial out some of the understeer. The original reviews on the handling was done with the sri-t setup underneath which is slighlty different to the production spec and is why they all complained about torque steer etc.

For the dump pipe, 3" fits no worries, but the exhaust flange on these cars is different to what you'd find on most so just need to keep that in mind.

In regards to tuning, I guess it depends on how far you want to go and what sensation you want out of the car. There are 3 popular ones being the Dreamscience (Stratagem), Bluefin and the EDS IPF.

Make sure you sign up on www.hsvvxr.com as well ;) www.vxronline.co.uk also has heaps of info on just how far you can mod these things.

I would probably get a custom DP made, so I will have to enquire about the flange. I signed up for hsvvxr.com but it seems there are about 2 posts per week made, so not sure if it worth asking questions on there haha. I'm basically after the most cost-effective way to get to 200-210kw (and whatever that would translate to in terms of FWKW).

Apart from whiteline sway bar, what are the next best bang-for-buck mods? I would mostly be chasing usable torque rather than peak power, and responsiveness is more than ok for me now.
3rd May 2011, 04:27 PM
Nurb608

If you getting a custom one made, just tell them to cut the flange off the OE downpipe and weld it on to the new one ;) If your looking for that power, thats about a stage 3 which you'd get there with both the bluefin and EDS IPF. The EDS tune is more progressive where as the bluefin one is more fun. I've driven vxr's with all the different tunes on them and they all had their good and bad points. I've got the EDS one on mine as I found it more usuable on the street and track, but it lacks that seat of the pants feel that the other tunes have due to it's progresiveness.

To run that power you'll definately need to look at an aftermarket intercooler. The kits I recommend are either the Forge Motorsport one or the Courtenay Motorsport ones. There are cheaper kits about but as I haven't used them I can't really comment, but will say that there is a reason some kits are alot cheaper. Speak to PWR up there in QLD as they may have developed a kit for the VXR's now, not sure.

This is a list of mods on mine and a few others, which you wouldn't need all of to get to what your after, but 2 of the other guys are getting about 190kw at the wheels with the hybrid turbo and inlet manifold. It's about 175kw at the wheels without those which is where you are aiming.

EDS/Regal Inlet Manifold, Thermal Gasket, Regal Inlet Cam, EVOMS Diverter Valve, Forge FMIC, Quaife ATB, Custom 3" Turbo Back, Whiteline RARB, Uprated FARB, AP Racing Brakes, Percy CDTi Airbox Conversion, Oil Breather Box, Dap-r Springs, Bilstein B8's,AET Hybrid Turbo, Courtenay Brake Cooling Ducts, Cool Running Thermo, CS Pro Alloy Uprated Radiator.
3rd May 2011, 05:02 PM
nick_sixx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurb608

If you getting a custom one made, just tell them to cut the flange off the OE downpipe and weld it on to the new one ;) If your looking for that power, thats about a stage 3 which you'd get there with both the bluefin and EDS IPF. The EDS tune is more progressive where as the bluefin one is more fun. I've driven vxr's with all the different tunes on them and they all had their good and bad points. I've got the EDS one on mine as I found it more usuable on the street and track, but it lacks that seat of the pants feel that the other tunes have due to it's progresiveness.

To run that power you'll definately need to look at an aftermarket intercooler. The kits I recommend are either the Forge Motorsport one or the Courtenay Motorsport ones. There are cheaper kits about but as I haven't used them I can't really comment, but will say that there is a reason some kits are alot cheaper. Speak to PWR up there in QLD as they may have developed a kit for the VXR's now, not sure.

This is a list of mods on mine and a few others, which you wouldn't need all of to get to what your after, but 2 of the other guys are getting about 190kw at the wheels with the hybrid turbo and inlet manifold. It's about 175kw at the wheels without those which is where you are aiming.

EDS/Regal Inlet Manifold, Thermal Gasket, Regal Inlet Cam, EVOMS Diverter Valve, Forge FMIC, Quaife ATB, Custom 3" Turbo Back, Whiteline RARB, Uprated FARB, AP Racing Brakes, Percy CDTi Airbox Conversion, Oil Breather Box, Dap-r Springs, Bilstein B8's,AET Hybrid Turbo, Courtenay Brake Cooling Ducts, Cool Running Thermo, CS Pro Alloy Uprated Radiator.

Thanks heaps for your input - very helpful. I am only working part-time as I am back at uni doing my second degree, so it will be a long progress. So far my plans for mods are:

Get gutter rash fixed (anyone know of a cheap-yet-acceptable wheel repair place/guy in Brisbane?)
Intake modified (panel filter - maybe cdi box)
3" downpipe
Bluefin/EDS
Sway Bar

Then, if I can afford it, I will look at FMIC, Hybrid turbo etc...

Does this seem like a logical progression? (ie if an intercooler will be more beneficial than ECU to begin with - let me know!)

Can anyone give me some tips on what gearbox oil to use to prevent crunching 1st-->2nd?

Nurb608, I am assuming the 608 refers to 608/835.....how did you get that car if only 20 were imported? I'm guessing they didnt import consecutive numbers?
3rd May 2011, 05:07 PM
Nurb608

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_sixx

Thanks heaps for your input - very helpful. I am only working part-time as I am back at uni doing my second degree, so it will be a long progress. So far my plans for mods are:

Get gutter rash fixed (anyone know of a cheap-yet-acceptable wheel repair place/guy in Brisbane?)
Intake modified (panel filter - maybe cdi box)
3" downpipe
Bluefin/EDS
Sway Bar

Then, if I can afford it, I will look at FMIC, Hybrid turbo etc...

Does this seem like a logical progression? (ie if an intercooler will be more beneficial than ECU to begin with - let me know!)

Can anyone give me some tips on what gearbox oil to use to prevent crunching 1st-->2nd?

Nurb608, I am assuming the 608 refers to 608/835.....how did you get that car if only 20 were imported? I'm guessing they didnt import consecutive numbers?

Stage 1 and Stage 2 don't require the intercooler so you can do that later on down the track.

With gearbox oil, depends what you want to spend. Royal Purple is highly recommended by alot of people. If your getting crunching, get your engine mounts checked as well.

Yeah, the 608 is my cars number. I think the numbers are all over the place.
3rd May 2011, 05:19 PM
nick_sixx

When I was shopping around for cars I noticed that the Focus XR5 only requires an intake and hi-flow cat for Bluefin stage 2.

Am I right in thinking that a 3" DP+cat and intake will be sufficient for stage 2 tunes on the VXR? How much would a container of royal purple be? Will look at mounts when I get the car serviced next week or so - it doesnt feel like they are sagged as the car is quite "firm" on the throttle - ie everything seems to be pretty well bolted together, both inside and outside the cabin (I am OCD with rattles etc)
3rd May 2011, 05:25 PM
Nurb608

Here's the list of what mods are required for the EDS maps. Vorkat = precat. Stage 1 includes everything up to the 285 map, stage 3 is the 315 maps

00 : ORIGINAL 240PS
01 : PHASE-1 240PS SPORT 265PS 400NM
02 : PHASE-1 240PS SPORT 280PS 400NM NÜRNBURGRING
03 : PHASE-1 240PS SPORT 280PS 400NM NÜRNBURGRING_NORMAL+8%
04 : PHASE-1 240PS SPORT 275PS 450NM ORGINAL VORKAT
05 : PHASE-1 240PS SPORT 285PS 450NM NO VORKAT
06 : PHASE-1 280PS 400NM NÜRNBURGRING
07 : PHASE-1 240PS SPORT 285PS 450NM VKAT-70MM
08 : PHASE-1 285PS 450NM NO VORKAT_ALL-GEAR-OVERBOOST_20.04.2011
09 : PHASE-1 285PS 450NM NO VORKAT_ALL-GEAR-OVERBOOST_TROTTLE-FIX_20.04.2011
10 : PHASE-1 285PS 450NM NO VORKAT_ALL-GEAR-OVERBOOST_NOCATDIAG_TROTTLE-FIX_20.04.2011
11 : PHASE-1 240PS SPORT 285PS 450NM NO VORKAT_ALL-GEAR-OVERBOOST_NOCATDIAG_TROTTLE-FIX_20.04.2011
12 : PHASE-1 240PS SPORT 300PS 450NM NÜRNBURGRING NOCATS NOCATDIAGNOSE-NO_P0420_UPDATE 22.02.2010
13 : PHASE-1 300PS 450NM NÜRNBURGRING NOCATS NOCATDIAGNOSE-NO_P0420_UPDATE 13.09.2010
14 : PHASE-2 280PS SPORT 315PS 430NM FMIC-LLK_INTAKE-SYSTEM_INCAM_NO-PRECAT_ERRORFIX UPDATE 17.06.2010
15 : PHASE-2 315PS 430NM FMIC-LLK_INTAKE-SYSTEM_INCAM_NO-PRECAT_ERRORFIX UPDATE 17.06.2010
16 : PHASE-3 240PS SPORT 320PS 450NM EDS-Z20LEX-INTAKE-TOPHAT-60_INCAM_V22H19_NOCATDIAG SOFTSPORT_UPDATE 04.01.2011
17 : PHASE-3 320PS 450NM EDS-Z20LEX-INTAKE-TOPHAT-60_INCAM_V22H19_NOCATDIAG SOFTSPORT_UPDATE 04.01.2011
18 : PHASE-3 335PS 480NM FMIC-LLK_EDS-Z20LEX-INTAKE-TOPHAT-60_VM15H10B_MAP300KPA_TROTTLE-FIX_20.04.2011
19 : PHASE-4 360PS 500NM FMIC-LLK_EDS_INJ550_GT28_VED2E1J_MAP300KPA_350KPA_FUELP RESSURE
20 : PHASE-4 360PS 500NM FMIC-LLK_EDS-Z20LEX-INTAKE-TOPHAT-60_INJ550_GT28_VD2E1H1_MAP300KPA
21 : PHASE-4 365PS 500NM FMIC-LLK_EDS-Z20LEX-INTAKE-TOPHAT-60_INJ550_GT28_CAMS_VD2E1H2_MAP300KPA
22 : PHASE-4 445PS 500NM FMIC-LLK_EDS-Z20LEX-INTAKE-TOPHAT-60_INJ630_GT3071_CAMS_V4H25_NOLAMBDA UPDATE 31.10.2010
23 : PHASE-4 430PS 500NM FMIC-LLK_EDS-Z20LEX-INTAKE-TOPHAT-60_INJ630_GT28WRC_CAMS_V1H18_NOLAMBDA UPDATE 11.11.2010
3rd May 2011, 06:36 PM
frase.

welcome to the site mate!! What a present btw!!!!
3rd May 2011, 06:57 PM
Ice

welcome to the site, great present you lucky bastard and show us your pics, haha

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