Smart forfour beats Astra H

[Lucky_Astra06]

got into an argument yesterday wif my step dad about what car is the fastest off da start & in a straight line... his Smart forfour 1.3L or my Atra H Coupe 1.8L

The result.....

after gunning it on a straight road for 80meters i could have parked a semi trailer between the two of us (the smart car infront)

Think ill go find out how much the 1.5L Turbo Smart forfour is retailing for & a trade in figure for my car.... Totally shocked/disapointed with that outcome, but i still luv my car no matter how slow she is:)

[Bernard Siong]

yea my ex girlfriend had the smart car
was so funny
i use to surprise so many riced up pulsars and excels with it hahaha
i think its more to do with their weight then their power

[RapidSRi]

yeah only about 80kw but a mere 900 odd kg

[blueraven]

thats the same as the lotus elise.....
(85kw & 900kg)

i heard somewhere the turbo smart for four is a track weapon...

[Red AH SRI T]

The smart fortwo doesn't have 80kw

its more like 45 kw

[pred8r]

the smart stuff looks hot esp the roadster, its a pity Mercedes Aus fuXord it with their pricing

[Red AH SRI T]

Taken from smartaustralia.com.au

Smart fortwo (the original smart car)
Engine analysis. smart fortwo coupé pulse.
Cubic capacity: 698 cc
Max. power: 45 kW at 5,250 rpm
Max. torque: 95 (Nm) at 2,000-4,000 rpm
0-100 km/h: 15.5 seconds
Maximum speed: 135 km/h (electronically limited)
Fuel consumption (in accordance with directive 1999/100/EC) in 1/100 km:
urban cycle: 5.9 (softouch 6.1)
extra-urban cycle: 4.0 (softouch 4.1)
combined cycle: 4.7 (softouch 4.8)

Engine analysis. smart forfour 70kW
Cubic capacity: 1,332
Max. power: 70 kW at 6,000 rpm
Max. torque: 125 (Nm) at 4,000 rpm
0-100 km/h: 10.8 seconds
Maximum speed: 180 km/h
Fuel consumption (in accordance with directive 1999/100/EC) in 1/100 km:
urban cycle: 7.4
extra-urban cycle: 4.8
combined cycle: 5.8
CO2 emission in g/km3: 138

Engine analysis. smart forfour 80kW
Cubic capacity: 1,499 cc
Max. power: 80 kW at 6,000 rpm
Max. torque: 145 (Nm) at 4,000 rpm
0-100 km/h: 9.8 seconds
Maximum speed: 190 km/h
Fuel consumption (in accordance with directive 1999/100/EC) in 1/100 km:
urban cycle: 7.8
extra-urban cycle: 5.1
combined cycle: 6.1
CO2 emission in g/km3: 145


Astra: Taken from www.holden.com.au


ENGINE Four cylinders. Double overhead camshafts operate four valves per cylinder. Sequential multipoint fuel injection. Distributorless direct ignition system. Electric cooling fan. Variable intake manifold. Coil-at-plug ignition. Cylinder selective knock control. Electronic throttle control. Aluminium cylinder head.

BORE x STROKE (mm) 80.5 x 88.2

CAPACITY (cc) 1796

COMPRESSION RATIO (:1) 10.5

POWER (ECE, kW) 90 @ 5600rpm
92 @ 5600rpm (PULP)

TORQUE (ECE, Nm) 165 @ 3800rpm
170 @ 3800rpm (PULP)

GEAR RATIOS (:1) Manual Auto

1st 3.73 2.81

2nd 2.14 1.48

3rd 1.41 1.00

4th 1.12 0.74

5th 0.89

Axle 3.94 4.12

RECOMMENDED PETROL ULP.
Alternative: PULP for slightly higher performance.

FUEL ECONOMY* (L/100km) Manual Auto
Coupe/5 Dr Hatch 7.8 8.2
CD Wagon 7.8 8.3
CDX Wagon 7.9 8.3

PETROL TANK (L) 52

BRAKES 4 wheel disc brakes.
Front ventilated.

ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM (ABS) 4-channel.

BRAKE ASSIST Standard.

SUSPENSION Front Independent. MacPherson strut. Decoupled strut mounts. Gas pressure dampers. Coil springs. Stabiliser bar.

Rear Compound torsion beam and twin trailing arms. Progressive rate miniblock double conical coil springs. Gas pressure dampers.

STEERING Electro-hydraulic power rack and pinion steering.

TRACK (mm) Front CD:1488 CDX, CDXi: 1484

Rear CD:1485 CDX, CDXi: 1481

TURN CIRCLE (m)
Coupe/5 Dr Hatch 10.55 kerb to kerb
Wagon 10.85 kerb to kerb

WHEELBASE (mm)
Coupe/5 Dr Hatch 2614
Wagon 2703

DIMENSIONS (mm) Length Width
(Including mirrors) Width
(Excluding mirrors) Height

Coupe 4250 2033 1753 1435
5 Dr Hatch 4249 2033 1753 1460
Wagon 4515 2033 1753 1500

INTERIOR DIMENSIONS (mm) Leg Shoulder Head Hip

Coupe Front 1074 1370 960 1304

Coupe Rear 890 1338 929 1296

5 Dr Hatch Front 1067 1370 989 1315

5 Dr Hatch Rear 897 1342 973 1307

Wagon Front 1067 1370 989 1315

Wagon Rear 897 1342 993 1307

CARGO VOLUME (L) Rear seat up
(under load compartment cover) Rear seat down
(to roof)
Coupe 302 1030
5 Dr Hatch 345 1265
Wagon 454 1549

KERB WEIGHT (Est. kg inc. A/C and all fluids) Man/Auto
CD

CDX

CDXi

Coupe
1243 / 1268

1271 / 1296


5 Dr Hatch
1249 / 1274

1266 / 1291

1283 / 1308

Wagon
1307 / 1332

1325 / 1350


TOWING (kg)
Coupe/5 Dr Hatch 630. Braked trailer 1300.
Wagon 630. Braked trailer 1250.

[Slimcraigie]

Weve a few of these for-fours at work and a couple of roadsters and astras and everything else too you can check the prices and convert them into AUS $$ www.thecarpeople.co.uk (http://www.thecarpeople.co.uk)

[Red AH SRI T]

strange thing is, nowhere does holden EVER list the Astra's 0-100km times!!

[pred8r]

Engine analysis. smart forfour 80kW
Cubic capacity: 1,499 cc
Max. power: 80 kW at 6,000 rpm
Max. torque: 145 (Nm) at 4,000 rpm
0-100 km/h: 9.8 seconds
Maximum speed: 190 km/h
Fuel consumption (in accordance with directive 1999/100/EC) in 1/100 km:
urban cycle: 7.8
extra-urban cycle: 5.1
combined cycle: 6.1
CO2 emission in g/km3: 145

SRi Barina is quicker and faster, fuel economy 7.8 and 5.4 respectively
I bet the smart has 2 cupholders though :( and that they are not designed to dump the contents on takeoff.

[Red AH SRI T]

why are you using your Muffin holders to hang on to cups?

What a messy situation!!!

[InsaneAsylum]

either way, if your driving a smart car, your more of a hairdresser than you would be driving an astra.

[JohnBu]

SRi Barina is quicker and faster, fuel economy 7.8 and 5.4 respectively
I bet the smart has 2 cupholders though :( and that they are not designed to dump the contents on takeoff.

7.8seconds 0-100km????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????

[btm]

strange thing is, nowhere does holden EVER list the Astra's 0-100km times!!
yeah! i have noticed this also... why is this?? are they really that slow??

[blueraven]

i wasnt talking about the smart fortwo... i was talking about the smart forfour turbo.. i think it was supposed to have about 140 kw...well the one thats coming out anyway. they are comparing it to the lotus 111R...so yeh, you'll be a fast hairdresser :D

[BassyAstra]

strange thing is, nowhere does holden EVER list the Astra's 0-100km times!!

2005 Opel Astra GTC 1.8 - 0-100km/h10.70s

2004 Opel Astra 1.8 - 0-100km/h10.90s


FOR BTM:
2003 Opel Astra 2.20-100km/h8.80s

2005 Opel Astra GTC 2.0 Turbo
0-100km/h7.80s

2004 Opel Astra Enjoy 1.9 CDTi
0-100km/h8.90s

WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?

Perhaps the link: http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/?man=4694&Opel (http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/?man=4694&Opel)

[btm]

thank you o wise one :D

[BassyAstra]

thank you o wise one :D

Any time.:mad:

[180HOA]

strange thing is, nowhere does holden EVER list the Astra's 0-100km times!!

I just figured that's cos they aren't worth bragging about? :p

[pred8r]

7.8seconds 0-100km????????????

I didnt say that, i was refering to the fuel economy city/highway.



Still faster to 100km/h than a smart.


Except for the GSXR1000 conversion versions.......now that would be a hoot.

[EL BURITO]

Its like how a stock Corsa 1.4 can drag off the stock 1.8 Astra

[typetnt]

Hi there guys.

I've got the naturally aspirated 1.5L forFour and I gotta say the car has quite a personality when driving. The semi-automatic gearbox is NOT smooth but if you get used to the strange gear ratios, the car is quite a hoot to drive. I can see it being faster in acceleration than an Astra H however with top-end speed the Astra wins hands down. The Astra H is just too heavy for the little Ecotec engine these days.
The Brabus forFour will give even the Golf GTi a run for it's money as well being so light and does look unique. I love the smart cars as much as my Astra and if you EVER have the chance to drive a smart Roadster, DON'T PASS IT UP. on ordering my forFour, smart let me drive the Roadster for 3 weeks. Chick Magnet ;)

[pred8r]

if you EVER have the chance to drive a smart Roadster, DON'T PASS IT UP. on ordering my forFour, smart let me drive the Roadster for 3 weeks. Chick Magnet ;)

I agree but id like this one;
http://www.carpages.co.uk/smart/smart_images/smart_roadster_brabus_side_28_02_05.jpg

[typetnt]

I agree but id like this one;
http://www.carpages.co.uk/smart/smart_images/smart_roadster_brabus_side_28_02_05.jpg


The Roadster is 0.7L 3-cylinder Turbo and around 690kg. It does the 0-100km/h in about 10.8 seconds though. Nothing to brag about since the car was built to look cool. The Standard Brabus pack actually doesn't do much except add accessories throughout the car, it's the performance pack you're after! The SB2 option I think it was. It's rare to find a properly tuned Brabus Roadster now since the car was on the market for such a short time.

If you want to see something hoon, some guy down in Victoria modded the forTwo to fit Dual 3-cylinder engines. All you need is to add some glider wings!

I love small cars because of the handling characteristics and frugal fuel usage. If you like small roadsters check out the classic Suzuki Cuppucino (it looks like a Mini MX-5!). And of course go book a test drive for a MINI Cooper (normal and S). So much fun!

http://www.works-y3f.com/m_cars/3_jpn/others/cino/02.jpg

[btm]

I agree but id like this one;
http://www.carpages.co.uk/smart/smart_images/smart_roadster_brabus_side_28_02_05.jpg

looks a bit like an elise...

[oneightoo]

how much are these smart cars?

[pred8r]

in Oz, lots, i heard someone made a good living bringing them in cheap under grey import until mercedes decided to ruin it (they retailed them at something stupid instead of a realistic sub $18k)

[Shaun]

Have driven a Smart Fortwo and a Smart Roadster. I like the Roadster. a fun car on a twisty road. what it lacks in straight line speed it makes up in the twist and turns. I could have had one through work for 20k with about 3,000km on it if i had flown down to melbourne. When Daimler Chrysler introduced them to the Australian Market they were added to our internal Lease Car program. Many people leased them at the time as it was almost summer ( 6 Month lease for employees that work for Daimler Chrysler Australia Pacific) and they had an action of about 40 smart cars after they were returned to the company at the end of the lease.

as for the fortwo they are great idea if you live in the city . cheap to run and easy to park in tight parking spots.

Roadsters Retailed fro around 40k on the road (Ceased Production in December 2005)
Fortwo about 22k on the road
Forfour about 26-27k on the road.

[pred8r]

Saw a fortwo or fortwo cabrio today, teeny weeny cute, looks like itd roll over forwards if you braked hard enough, i want one.
Are they still available or did smart have its plug pulled?

[Shaun]

the cabrio is still in production still...

[rjastra]

in Oz, lots, i heard someone made a good living bringing them in cheap under grey import until mercedes decided to ruin it

Untrue... it was far more expensive (fortwo) before Merc started to officially import them