Astra/barina Sri vs pulsar SSS

[Brett]

hey guys was interested to know how pulsar SSS run against an sri (barina or astra)? anyone run one before?

[Anonymous]

i win :lol:

[YuSuF]

Depends on what engine size

I have beaten 2.0ltr SSS's

but if its sr20, different story

[Namus]

yeah reckon....sr20det.....bye bye corsa/astra.....not sure bout astra turbo tho...

[Brett]

isnt the sr20det from the 200sx?

[Anonymous]

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[Brett]

where is it from then? and how powerful?

[Anonymous]

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[Brett]

haha im not thinking of getting one dont worry

[Anonymous]

haha im not thinking of getting one dont worry
worry about wot ?

[Brett]

ah never mind, so where is it from?

[astro boy]

yeah reckon....sr20det.....bye bye corsa/astra.....not sure bout astra turbo tho...
The GTI-R will blow away a rex, so I dont think an astra turbo has any chance.

[shaohaok]

i know a certain SSS in brisbane that ran a hi 13s 1/4mile not too long ago. with the SR20DET...

fairly stock NA SSS times can span low to hi 15s. i think even hi 14s.

[Mrhopey]

Having owned a SSS, GTI-R and now an Astra SRI Turbo, the pulsar is by far the quickest car of them all. As previously mention it will out run a rex and give some porsche's a scare. As for the SSS v Astra i would think it would be a pretty good race with the Astra just getting the nod.

[Brett]

GTI-Rs run like low 14s stock dont they?
astra turbos stock give the feeling they arent quick because they have such a flat torque curve, but i know sss pulsars do like 16 sec 1/4s compared to 14.7 for a stock astra turbo

[1OPL2C]

SR20DET is the engine from the 200sx and GTi-R, and the NX Coupe [I WIN] has it. the nx runs 11's 1/4 mile. 400HP front wheel drive.. i work with the owner at bexley north FLEMINGS. Anicorsa might have seen this car, its always parkd in the car park.. fu*kn quik

the sr20 is only 104kw, and it only just beats a 1.8 astra.. about 1/2 car length.

[Anonymous]

My mate has a 1996 SSS Pulsar, Usual Mods. My 2.2 SRi munches him.
He wants to sell it now and get a Audi A4 Quattro. Smart Boy I say :)

[Brett]

thats moving, is that 11 secs on slicks?

[shaohaok]

http://www.4age.net/twincam16/sssturbo/willowsss1.JPG

Turbo Conversion on standard engine, Hybrid front mount intercooler, 370cc injectors, Exced Clutch, Walbro 550hp Fuel Pump, Turbosmart V Port Valve, GFB boost controler, 3inch mandrel bent system.

the car looks stock as hell apart from the FMIC poking out the front bar :p

[1OPL2C]

thats moving, is that 11 secs on slicks?

11's on the tyres his got in the pic.. normal street tyres

[Brett]

what car was that?

[1OPL2C]

its a NX coupe with the jap spec GTiR SR20DET, t28 with t3 internals, brass button clutch plus otha sh1t dat i cant remmeber..This thing sounds like a truck no joke.. and he only gets 160k's per tank.. do u's see the pic?

[Brett]

yeh looks crazy, 11secs is moving, specially on street tyres, must go through alot of them hehe :D

[shaohaok]

its a NX coupe with the jap spec GTiR SR20DET, t28 with t3 internals, brass button clutch plus otha sh1t dat i cant remmeber..This thing sounds like a truck no joke.. and he only gets 160k's per tank.. do u's see the pic?

he must plan his routes everywhere really carefully! is the power delivery all thru the front wheels?

[1OPL2C]

yeh alot of tyres.. he does 3rd's no problems

[1OPL2C]

its a NX coupe with the jap spec GTiR SR20DET, t28 with t3 internals, brass button clutch plus otha sh1t dat i cant remmeber..This thing sounds like a truck no joke.. and he only gets 160k's per tank.. do u's see the pic?

he must plan his routes everywhere really carefully! is the power delivery all thru the front wheels?

lol yeh his got a VS aswell. wot u mean by power delivery all thru d front wheels.. i dont know alot about his car but we all had a go driving it after work 1 night and it was quik plus the clutch was so heavy

[OPC]

where do i start :bang:

ive ran a worked SSS N/A and he ran a 15.01 @ WSID
ive ran a GTi R he ran a 13.25 @ WSID

also went up against a SSS with an SR20 in it and got absolutely flogged cant remember the times...
but a mate of mine has one and he runs 12s down the 1/4 mile

and i know of a guy who has a 94 pulsar sedan with a GTi R engine and is the second quickest street car in OZ on street tyres...

please confirm this mr c...

[Brett]

so a 94 pulsar sedan Fwd is the second quickest street car in oz?

[Mrhopey]

so a 94 pulsar sedan Fwd is the second quickest street car in oz?There was a '4 door pulsar' that was very quick from SA. They guy who owned it wrote off his GTIR and put the parts in to a cheap 4 door sedan. Basically he transplanted the pulsar shell onto a GTIR. With the obvious drive train modifications to make it fit

[1OPL2C]

wen i raced another guy from my work who owns a stock NX with d sr20.. he only just beat me

[I WIN] was bought from bankstown for $15K.. before it was sold to him they ran it and the sheet said it got 11.7's.. it could be bullsh1t.. and he only just found out from a guy who knew the previous owner and told him that the guy died in it but the car looks straight..

[Anonymous]

where do i start :bang:

ive ran a worked SSS N/A and he ran a 15.01 @ WSID
ive ran a GTi R he ran a 13.25 @ WSID

also went up against a SSS with an SR20 in it and got absolutely flogged cant remember the times...
but a mate of mine has one and he runs 12s down the 1/4 mile

and i know of a guy who has a 94 pulsar sedan with a GTi R engine and is the second quickest street car in OZ on street tyres...

please confirm this mr c...

COMFIRMED!

[joe]

where do i start :bang:

ive ran a worked SSS N/A and he ran a 15.01 @ WSID
ive ran a GTi R he ran a 13.25 @ WSID

also went up against a SSS with an SR20 in it and got absolutely flogged cant remember the times...
but a mate of mine has one and he runs 12s down the 1/4 mile

and i know of a guy who has a 94 pulsar sedan with a GTi R engine and is the second quickest street car in OZ on street tyres...

please confirm this mr c...

COMFIRMED! but some of us from opelaus know there is a serious australia top ten street tire front wheel drive contender in nsw and u know wot it aint no jap car ! WELL SAID

[Namus]

Well spill....wat sort of car is this 'top ten contender' Mr C.....? interesting...

GTIR's come in FWD & AWD don't they? that's wat i read somewhere else....the 1992 GTIR came with 172kW/284Nm at 6000rpm

SR20DET's are good for safe tuning to around the 500hp mark...

Taken from New Zealand Performance Car 2005 Yearbook:

SR20DET Positives:

+ The king of Nissan's four-cylinder family scores major points for it's modifying potential

+ It could be said that this engine is a little more advanced than some of it's competition, especially the later versions with variable valve timing.

+ The engine is one pretty tough cookie, and it is usually considered as reliable as the day is long.

SR20DET Negatives:

- Unfortunately, like the 3S-GTE, from the factory, these engines aren't quite up there as far as standard power figures go.

- Rumour has it that all SR20DET's, turbo or not, can suffer from a dry cam problem, due to the undersized oil feeds to the shafts.

- As with any engine of this type, parts can and will be expensive, but especially in the case of this engine, with it's more advanced breathing and cylinder head design

[Mrhopey]

The SR20 engine came out as both a turbo and non turbo version (200sx) as for the GTIR they secured the turbo version and were ONLY 4WD. The SR20 has been put into many a SSS (pretty good upgrade) but due to the chasis have to be front wheel drive, unless you prepared to spend $$ on modifying the chasis.

[OPC]

[quote=mohawk]where do i start :bang:

ive ran a worked SSS N/A and he ran a 15.01 @ WSID
ive ran a GTi R he ran a 13.25 @ WSID

also went up against a SSS with an SR20 in it and got absolutely flogged cant remember the times...
but a mate of mine has one and he runs 12s down the 1/4 mile

and i know of a guy who has a 94 pulsar sedan with a GTi R engine and is the second quickest street car in OZ on street tyres...

please confirm this mr c...

COMFIRMED!

[anicorsa]

SR20DET is the engine from the 200sx and GTi-R, and the NX Coupe [I WIN] has it. the nx runs 11's 1/4 mile. 400HP front wheel drive.. i work with the owner at bexley north FLEMINGS. Anicorsa might have seen this car, its always parkd in the car park.. fu*kn quik

the sr20 is only 104kw, and it only just beats a 1.8 astra.. about 1/2 car length.


I think i have seen that NX before. I still havent seen yours though.. :(

[freaktown]

Depends on what engine size

I have beaten 2.0ltr SSS's

but if its sr20, different story

there the same thing.

Both SR20DE's

i ran a Ti Pulsar that had a JDM SR20VE transplant and lost by half a car length!

a SSS with exhaust and pod ive beaten by about half a car length!

Ive also run a SSS with a sr20det Transplant, as soon as he planted it, he ended up in my lane.. not pretty!

[1OPL2C]

yeah Ti,Q,SSS have d same engine 2.0L sr20

[Anonymous]

sr20de, and sr20det, in all their variants 5h1t sideways on any opel/gm engine.

Easy to power up, bolt on galore, any man and his dog can work on them.

In fact, if the sr20de or sr20det could be engineered for my car, I would fugg off the idea of any "opel" engine conversion.

I will eatwhat I've said when I see an astra run quick times with the same or lower outlay of cash.

Who's game to prove me wrong? :shock:

[Anonymous]

yeah Ti,Q,SSS have d same engine 2.0L sr20

Ti and Q only had the sr20de for the first 2? years.

Thereafter, it was the sluggish 1.6.

The sr20de pulsar ti is extremely under-rated.

[Anonymous]

Depends on what engine size

I have beaten 2.0ltr SSS's

but if its sr20, different story

there the same thing.

Both SR20DE's

i ran a Ti Pulsar that had a JDM SR20VE transplant and lost by half a car length!

a SSS with exhaust and pod ive beaten by about half a car length!

Ive also run a SSS with a sr20det Transplant, as soon as he planted it, he ended up in my lane.. not pretty!

SSS are very temperamental with exhausts and induction mods.

Some actually run slower than factory.

[RK]

sr20det has heaps of power.. but god damn it sucks lower in the revs. drove my mates 200sx, and it really struggles at lower revs. But i guess with all 4cyl cars, you have to rev it hard to get the performance?

I'd rather a V8 or at least a V6 :)

[TRN-00N]

I FEEL it also depends on the driver

[YuSuF]

Don sr2odet's very different story :D

[Brett]

So whats this non jap top ten fwd car?

[Brett]

So whats this non jap top ten fwd car?

[OPC]

So whats this non jap top ten fwd car?

land rover

[Brett]

whoes is that? is it like an aftermarket turbo or something?

[Brett]

whoes is that? is it like an aftermarket turbo or something?

[Anonymous]

a member, and yes, aftermarket (without giving too much away).

[freaktown]

Well australias fastest FWD street car is the [ R ] Honda CRX Del Sol..

or it was mid last year lol...... i have no idea about now!

And Acid- many a time ive thought about the possibilities of whacking in an sr20det into my car. Who knows ive never taken the time to measure it, and see if the gearbox and engine can be put in!

Have you?


why i even bothered typing that ill never know!

thankyou!

[Brett]

how quick was that CRX?

[Anonymous]

bloody fast.....

http://www.onlineperformance.com.au/content/gallery/500tn100-0096_IMG.jpg

www.onlineperformance.com.au

[1OPL2C]

dat a street car?... :shock:

[RK]

WHAT THE F.... :shock:

[Anonymous]

nah way its a street car, but i dont know of any fast crx street cars?????

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Depends on what engine size

I have beaten 2.0ltr SSS's

but if its sr20, different storyErrr.... all the SSS pulsars run a SR20DE engine with 105kw of power.

As for a Astra/Barina SRi beating one... given the same driver/conditions the SSS are a quicker car in a straight line... but just can't handle quick like either opel.

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how quick was that CRX?11.2 if I remember correctly.

But the new fastest street car is a Gen2 CRX from APC in Brisbane which is doing mid 10's.

I think the slowest FWD in the top 10 is 11.4 at the moment.


And for reference sake... the myOnline tube from CRX (the one pictured above) has a PB of 9.71 from Jamboree last year.

[Anonymous]

wot dont u people understand street car (full street trim with glass)with street tires(every day street tires ) :screwy: :bang:

[OPC]

wot dont u people understand street car (full street trim with glass)with street tires(every day street tires ) :screwy: :bang:street tires not slicks

[YuSuF]

Depends on what engine size

I have beaten 2.0ltr SSS's

but if its sr20, different storyErrr.... all the SSS pulsars run a SR20DE engine with 105kw of power.

As for a Astra/Barina SRi beating one... given the same driver/conditions the SSS are a quicker car in a straight line... but just can't handle quick like either opel.

oops forgot the "T" at the end, one gti-rs and 200's use

depends on the driver, the guy musta been high that day who knows :roll:

only thing to compare to the SRi-T

[Anonymous]

heres the top ten records for australia front wheel drives street tires

POISITION TIMES MPH CAR ENGINE
1 12.377 120.875 suzuki gti g13b
2 12.501 116.55 n14pulsar sss sr20det
3 12.511 118.5 1995 civic b16a
4 12.658 113.23 1995civic eb
5 12.749 114.6 n14pulsarsss sr20det
6 12.846 112.75 charade hde
7 12.877 109.03 n14pulsarsss sr20det
8 12.886 107.58 1985 civic b20a
9 12.930 110.55 starlet gp ep82 4e-fte
10 12.94 ----- n14pulsarsss sr20det



these records are correct from the records of hpi magazine today 16/2/05

[YuSuF]

1 11.354 1996 astra gsi t :wink:

[Anonymous]

Well australias fastest FWD street car is the [ R ] Honda CRX Del Sol..

In August 2002 That CRX made Front Cover of Hots4s. Then It was doing 11.3sec@125mph, Buts on Slicks with NOS.
I had a few pics on my Old Computer from Drag Combat a few years Ago.

[freaktown]

slicks.. hmm there goes my theory i dont remember the slicks!

thanks for that :)

[ultim8DTM5]

Well Steph Papadakis' Civic is for sale.
Anyone for turn-key 8sec passes?

[My04SRi]

OK look guys, my bro has a 99 pulsar SSS uses the sr20de engine (no t, no turbo) we havent raced and i got a 04 Barina Sri, and i got a feeling he'll beat me but not very much..

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heres the top ten records for australia front wheel drives street tires

POISITION TIMES MPH CAR ENGINE
1 12.377 120.875 suzuki gti g13b
2 12.501 116.55 n14pulsar sss sr20det
3 12.511 118.5 1995 civic b16a
4 12.658 113.23 1995civic eb
5 12.749 114.6 n14pulsarsss sr20det
6 12.846 112.75 charade hde
7 12.877 109.03 n14pulsarsss sr20det
8 12.886 107.58 1985 civic b20a
9 12.930 110.55 starlet gp ep82 4e-fte
10 12.94 ----- n14pulsarsss sr20det



these records are correct from the records of hpi magazine today 16/2/05Go the Swift!!!! Last I heard the N14 from melbourne had jumped into #1 with a 12.5 and I was VERY impressed.

As for my list above.... by street car I was talking cars driven on the street, but that used slicks on the track.


On a side note... be sure to keep a look out for a purple nissan Exa running a GTiR SR20DET current pumping out 260kw @ wheels in a mild tune. Mohammed (the owner) is a mate and he plans on getting 300Kw @ wheels and a spot in the top 10 FWD's (slicks).

[Anonymous]

Well australias fastest FWD street car is the [ R ] Honda CRX Del Sol..

or it was mid last year lol...... i have no idea about now!

And Acid- many a time ive thought about the possibilities of whacking in an sr20det into my car. Who knows ive never taken the time to measure it, and see if the gearbox and engine can be put in!

Have you?


why i even bothered typing that ill never know!

thankyou!

nah haven't measured it up, but should go into a vectra very easily.

You'll need to create your own engine mounts, but I think thats the scope of the "difficulty".

A GTiR front mount would cost peanuts.

As I said last night, GO FOR IT!

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SR20DET would fit.... but why would you want a 15+ year old engine in your car?!

I would be fitting something newer and better..... likely one of the 2.5L twin turbo 6's from the latest Galant VR4's ;) :D

[Anonymous]

if it fits that is....

you could also try a mivec v6 swap.... 8)

[Namus]

yeah i was jokin to a mate the other day about the mivec swap

[YuSuF]

There was an old Civic somewhere on FF's with a rotor conversion :?:

[break]

I still don't get people who spend all that money on Mivec/VTEC swaps.... for the hand-full of kilowatts they gain... and barely any torque..... they spend a fortune putting the engine in :screwy:

For the $7-8k it will cost to drop ANY engine into an Astra... you could drop a nicely sized turbo in there instead and have more torque, more power... and less hastles and ''teething problems"

[astra_city]

why settle for the SR20DET, why not a RB26DETT :P
Preferrably with Trust T88-34D turbo (drool)

[Namus]

yeh but for the money u spend.....just betta off getin a beta car..... :screwy:

[InSaNe^Sna1L]

the SSS are slighly faster 0 - 100, but its only like .3 or something of a second. I raced my mates SSS in my Astra SRi 2.2 and it was a dead heat both times.

He got a better start at one point but my call pulled along side well. Also depends on the driver.

Could have a 15 year old driving a Ferrari and chances are another car will win.

[ultim8DTM5]

I still don't get people who spend all that money on Mivec/VTEC swaps.... for the hand-full of kilowatts they gain... and barely any torque..... they spend a fortune putting the engine in :screwy:

For the $7-8k it will cost to drop ANY engine into an Astra... you could drop a nicely sized turbo in there instead and have more torque, more power... and less hastles and ''teething problems"

Teething problems? Getting the bastard to stop going into limp mode would be one problem

[Anonymous]

I still don't get people who spend all that money on Mivec/VTEC swaps.... for the hand-full of kilowatts they gain... and barely any torque..... they spend a fortune putting the engine in :screwy:

For the $7-8k it will cost to drop ANY engine into an Astra... you could drop a nicely sized turbo in there instead and have more torque, more power... and less hastles and ''teething problems"

Teething problems? Getting the **moderated** to stop going into limp mode would be one problem

H22A VTEC motor shats sideways on a 2.2l SRi motor... :) Another viable swap 8)

7-8g on a turbo? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

20-30g if anything.

[Anonymous]

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[SSS_Hoon]

Well i can say that the SSS beats the sri barina not too sure bout the astra though, i have beaten a few astras including the 2.2 astras unsure if they were the sri or not, as for the turbo i dont think that a stande non turbo SSS would win, as the fastest non turbo SSS/pulsar is just hitting the 14.7 mark now and that is what the astra turbs do stock dont they, i do know this though, my SSS feels faster inside the car then the astra turbs do and my pulsar seems to take off qwiker aswell, but its just a illusion as my car has a heap stiffer suspension and solid engine mounts you just feel it more is all.


and the sr20de came out in the Ti, some Q.s and all the SSS models of the pulsars upto the N15, then they are all the 1.8 engine now and no more SSS. the sr20det came out in, the GtiR, 200sx some Nx coupes and even some of the 180sx also. the sr20ve however i think would come very close to beating a astra turbs.


SSS_Hoon

[Jass]

The awsome thing about Nissan's is that there is so much local knowledge, Srd20eT engine swaps ect. Not too many ppl have done that on astra's.
Personally i like the shape of the astra over the SSS.

[SSS_Hoon]

yeah there is so many shops and ppl that have a heap of knowledge on the SR20DE engine range as most work for the rwd cars can go to fwd cars too.

the shape well i would have to disagree with you on that note, i like the shape of the Jap Spec SSS the N14 over the astra but the N15 well the astra beats them hands down for sure, the astra is a very very sweet looking car especially in the blue i have gotta say.

i would like to turbo my car if i did i would be doing a de+t conversion mmm can someone say mid 13's here i come :lol:


SSS_Hoon

[Namus]

i wouldn't call it local knowledge....knowledege 'gained' from experience....cause everyone does up the nissans, toyota's etc....the ecu is one of the main problems with opel's

[InSaNe^Sna1L]

i took out my ecu......now my car wont start :(

any ideas?

[SSS_Hoon]

:lol:

ecu out wont work mmmmm wonder why.


yeah i meant experience not knowledge too.


SSS_Hoon

[ultim8DTM5]

i took out my ecu......now my car wont start :(

any ideas?

Put it back in for a start.