Opel Astra OPC Extreme fastest street-legal Astra headed for production.....

[Theo]

Group buy anyone?

http://www.caradvice.com.au/268083/opel-astra-opc-extreme-fastest-street-legal-astra-headed-for-production/


The Opel Astra OPC Extreme will become the quickest street-legal Astra in history and one of the world’s hottest hot-hatches when it debuts at the Geneva motor show in March.

And unlike its 12-year-old namesake – the one-off 2002 Astra OPC X-treme concept – Opel says the racecar-inspired Astra OPC Extreme will herald a low-volume production run, giving enthusiasts the chance to own and race the high-performance small car.

Claimed to be a direct derivative of the Astra OPC Cup racer from Europe’s Nurburgring Endurance Championship, Opel says the Extreme edition features “uncompromised racing technology” such as an integrated safety structure, racing seats and six-point seatbelts.

The Astra OPC Extreme will also be lighter than the regular 1550kg Astra OPC thanks to extensive use of carbonfibre inside and out. The lightweight material can be seen across the car’s front and rear bumpers, side skirts, and large tailgate-mounted wing.

Also visible in the computer-generated image are Hankook racing tyres, alloy wheels with motorsport-style central locking wheel nuts, and a diffuser with quad exhaust outlets.

The Opel Astra OPC Extreme is also expected to benefit from a performance hike over the 206kW and 400Nm of the standard model’s 2.0-litre turbo engine, though details of scarce at this stage.

The Opel Astra OPC was on sale in Australia for just six months last year before the German brand pulled out of the market, though the performance model is believed to be a good chance to return wearing a Holden badge.

The next-generation Astra is also set to replace the Cruze in Australia when it launches in 2015 or 2016.

Full details of the Opel Astra OPC Extreme will be revealed when it debuts in Geneva on March 4.

[faneca]

Looks promising! Will be like a golf r, amg a45 type competitor perhaps?

[Raisin]

*Drools* That concept image looks sexy as hell.

[mickos]

Sounds good to me

[lonewolf1983]

i like the concept but unlikely to come here, and even if it did would probably be $65k+

[Elliot_O]

Plus 'carbon fibre throughout and 6 point racing harnesses'
git outta town!

But yeah, looks the balls.

[eddysdaman]

Do I smell more aftermarket parts/possibility of upgrading my engine to whatever this thing runs :guy:

[benzino]

i like the concept but unlikely to come here, and even if it did would probably be $65k+
Still heaps cheaper than a BMW M135i or A45 AMG

[dutchy]

Groupbuy........ I'm in :arf:

[lonewolf1983]

Still heaps cheaper than a BMW M135i or A45 AMG

true, price will likely be up with them!

[hazrd]

A45 is fkn expensive at the moment. One off the boat is the usual 74.900 plus orc but if you want the one sitting there in the showroom then it's $100k. Paying for the privilege to have it now

[lonewolf1983]

yep, when demand outstrips supply that happens!

[scamp]

Groupbuy........ I'm in :arf:

me too !!!!!!

[Theo]

me too !!!!!!
I'm going to need a bigger shed.

[kabel]

I'm going to need a bigger shed.

I already need a bigger shed !

Interesting comments at the bottom of the page on the Car Advice website.

[dutchy]

read on another site that they want to release this car as a celebration to 50 years of Kadet / Astra.

[Theo]

read on another site that they want to release this car as a celebration to 50 years of Kadet / Astra.

Good idea...fitting tribute.

[Wraith]

Good one from Opel :thumbs:

It certainly looks good !!!

Need a lot more info though as to exactly what it can and can't do - importantly is it going to be AWD ???

If not it simply won't be able to compete with the likes of an A45 ( or RS3 or Golf R ) in many respects and justifies its lower price point against that competition...I've extensively driven both the A45 and CLA 45 - nothing out there ATM even in the same class even comes close and they demolish just above anything else out there as well even other bigger more powerful AMG models...

Also regarding the AMG A45 you can get it for a lot less than those prices listed above, both new order and floor stock (at least I can) the big problem is the wait associated with a new order which is now around 1 year for Aust. customers...

Getting back to the Astra, if it's built in limited/small numbers only I doubt any will make to Australia anyway...

[Opelicious]

read on another site that they want to release this car as a celebration to 50 years of Kadet / Astra.
As said before, a great tribute. A good decision by GM here it seems! Cannot wait to give it a spin.

[poita]

I very much doubt we will see any here

[Theo]

I very much doubt we will see any here

Agree with you sort of.... I can see these on the streets if the Astra return in 2016.

This sort of limited release is no different to what Subaru do with their WRX/STi...

[poita]

But a niche product for a vehicle that is already a small seller makes no sense really.

[dutchy]

But a niche product for a vehicle that is already a small seller makes no sense really.

It does for me :) where can I leave my deposit ?

[t20569cald]

was looking at my car yesterday, and was thinking it would look great with that kind of wing at the rear, and now I see this, it really would.
The car should have been all wheel drive, and 250kw, with a gear box to suit.
I love mine, it has a mild tune giving an extra 20bhp or so, but if it was all wheel drive with a double clutch 7 speed box with paddle shifts etc, then I would have paid an extra 10k for it. 20k if the motor was worked a bit.
The A45 is too much here, 84k the salesman told me, but Opel should have shocked them all with the OPC.

[Nurb608]

Would cost a lot more than 10k extra as it would need at least a new floor pan etc

[t20569cald]

Would cost a lot more than 10k extra as it would need at least a new floor pan etc

The Insignia managed it, both in engine and all wheel drive, and that was 10k more than my Astra drive away.
OPC insignia , all wheel drive, 265kw motor, $64 drive away, before the price cut.
Mine has the headlight pack, but that is too bright and if your behind someone, looks like your flashing then, so could live without that on the car, so 2.5k cheaper right there

[Nurb608]

Different floor pan, motor already developed, etc. It's not as easy to fit in the astra. Not to mention everything else that goes with it. Remember, there are non opc insignias with and overseas so economy of scale is completely different.

[Nurb608]

Awd, not and

[t20569cald]

Different floor pan, motor already developed, etc. It's not as easy to fit in the astra. Not to mention everything else that goes with it. Remember, there are non opc insignias with and overseas so economy of scale is completely different.

Merc did it with the A250 to the A45.
The A250 is basically the same car, just tuned, but has 4wd. $65 for the A250 and $84 for the A45.
It can be done, and I for one would pay $65 for the OPC, if they used the extra price difference to do it, from $46 to $66k or so.
Yes, scale of economy, but Vaxhall must sell a few, and if they did what I am suggesting, they would surely sell a lot more.
Same as a Focus RS. I would pay the extra 20k over the ST, and would likely have bought one if they were around new, which they are not.

[Nurb608]

That's $20k though, not $10k. Not saying it can't be done, but it's expensive.

[Theo]

But a niche product for a vehicle that is already a small seller makes no sense really.

yes a niche product if it remained an Opel....by sticking a holden/hsv badge on it will make it more appeal-able to people.

[Wraith]

Merc did it with the A250 to the A45.
The A250 is basically the same car, just tuned, but has 4wd. $65 for the A250 and $84 for the A45.
It can be done, and I for one would pay $65 for the OPC, if they used the extra price difference to do it, from $46 to $66k or so.
Yes, scale of economy, but Vaxhall must sell a few, and if they did what I am suggesting, they would surely sell a lot more.
Same as a Focus RS. I would pay the extra 20k over the ST, and would likely have bought one if they were around new, which they are not.

Sorry but that above regarding the A Class is not the case, if you research it you can find most of the information related to that topic...the only similarity between the new regular MB 2.0ltr IL4 and new AMG 2.0ltr IL4 is their displacement, everything else that makes it up is bespoke to a custom specification and like all other MB/AMG engines is custom made in a separate facility 1 man to 1 engine doctrine not masss produced like the regular engine, it's the main reason why there's such a long wait for this car - the engine supply factor...

The new A Class body/chassis was designed from the outset to accomodate AWD/different drivetrains amongst all projected variants, hence a similarity in the 'donor' body but that's where it ends when it comes to the AMG variant, this was not the case for the AJ Astra ie. it was never intended to accomodate AWD etc. the Insignia was...

[Wraith]

yes a niche product if it remained an Opel....by sticking a holden/hsv badge on it will make it more appeal-able to people.

That may or may not be the case, but history shows people will buy the same product from GMH dealers with greater confidence than that same brand being sold under their own name - go figure...

[t20569cald]

Sorry but that above regarding the A Class is not the case, if you research it you can find most of the information related to that topic...the only similarity between the new regular MB 2.0ltr IL4 and new AMG 2.0ltr IL4 is their displacement, everything else that makes it up is bespoke to a custom specification and like all other MB/AMG engines is custom made in a separate facility 1 man to 1 engine doctrine not masss produced like the regular engine, it's the main reason why there's such a long wait for this car - the engine supply factor...

The new A Class body/chassis was designed from the outset to accomodate AWD/different drivetrains amongst all projected variants, hence a similarity in the 'donor' body but that's where it ends when it comes to the AMG variant, this was not the case for the AJ Astra ie. it was never intended to accomodate AWD etc. the Insignia was...

that is interesting, but still the fact remains it could have been done, and your point in a way reinforced mine.
If AMG, can hand build an engine put it into a car with 4wd and add some wing and diffusers etc for 20k more then Opel could have made a beast.
Having said that, I am very happy with my OPC, and have no complaints about it, but the could have shocked the class wide open, as it has the styling, the interior is lovely, (I bought mine for the seats).

I drove the Merc A250, liked it, but the gear box was horrible in my opinion. The car itself was odd, I liked it, and at the same time did not. I guess I would describe it as ''Funky'' Where the A45 is a different beast all together.
I drove the Volvo V40 R design, and I loved it. It did not have the chassis the Opel has, nor the outright pace, but it was beautiful. My concern, was at its price point, and being bought by the Chinese, the resale would be nothing. In fact, there is a plan to build Volvo's in China I read, so I decided against it.
I was looking for 4 doors, as I have kids, so the Opel was low on my list.
I drove the Focus, and I liked it a lot, but it did not tick all the boxes.
I decided not to drive the GTI, as sitting in it was enough, it did nothing for me. I sit in my car maybe 2 hours driving per day, so I want all the fruit inside.
Same as the Subaru, I decided not to drive it.

So I bought the Opel. I just loved those seats. But after 7 months of ownership, I have to wonder, why come here as a ''prestige'' brand, and stop short.
They could have competed with Volvo and the Merc A250, as well as the BMW. It would then be the same price as those 3, and while it wuld not have the same ''Brand'' factor it would have the go of the A45 AMG, and for that reason they would sell them, as I for one would have paid

[Wraith]

that is interesting, but still the fact remains it could have been done, and your point in a way reinforced mine.
If AMG, can hand build an engine put it into a car with 4wd and add some wing and diffusers etc for 20k more then Opel could have made a beast.
Having said that, I am very happy with my OPC, and have no complaints about it, but the could have shocked the class wide open, as it has the styling, the interior is lovely, (I bought mine for the seats).

I drove the Merc A250, liked it, but the gear box was horrible in my opinion. The car itself was odd, I liked it, and at the same time did not. I guess I would describe it as ''Funky'' Where the A45 is a different beast all together.
I drove the Volvo V40 R design, and I loved it. It did not have the chassis the Opel has, nor the outright pace, but it was beautiful. My concern, was at its price point, and being bought by the Chinese, the resale would be nothing. In fact, there is a plan to build Volvo's in China I read, so I decided against it.
I was looking for 4 doors, as I have kids, so the Opel was low on my list.
I drove the Focus, and I liked it a lot, but it did not tick all the boxes.
I decided not to drive the GTI, as sitting in it was enough, it did nothing for me. I sit in my car maybe 2 hours driving per day, so I want all the fruit inside.
Same as the Subaru, I decided not to drive it.

So I bought the Opel. I just loved those seats. But after 7 months of ownership, I have to wonder, why come here as a ''prestige'' brand, and stop short.
They could have competed with Volvo and the Merc A250, as well as the BMW. It would then be the same price as those 3, and while it wuld not have the same ''Brand'' factor it would have the go of the A45 AMG, and for that reason they would sell them, as I for one would have paid

There's always a lot more to situations like this one...

For eg. A Class will be mass produced the Astra Extreme only in limited numbers, the higher the production cycle the greater the reduction of costs (pay off tooling, development etc. etc.) there are also many many other factors, you can't just say that because the A Class AMG has a 20k price over a regular A Class the Astra Extreme could've been similar...

I don't know if an AJ OPC Extreme Astra could've blown this class wide open or not, probably would've been competitive for sure, remember there's also the VW Golf R Extreme said to be coming and the new Audi RS3 which will be built specifically to match up to the new AMG A Class, probably best for Opel to steer clear of all that competition so that they're not directly competing in those price points...

As for the A250 yes except for the shell and some interior trimmings it is completely different from the AMG incuding the transmission, so if you didn't like the trans in the A250 it's definitely different in the AMG...

Your choice of going with the Astra is a good one as it's exactly what you wanted compared to all the other choices you sampled, that's what it's all about buying what you want for all your own reasons :)

Oh and the way we're going, one day everything will be made in China LOL

[t20569cald]

There's always a lot more to situations like this one...

For eg. A Class will be mass produced the Astra Extreme only in limited numbers, the higher the production cycle the greater the reduction of costs (pay off tooling, development etc. etc.) there are also many many other factors, you can't just say that because the A Class AMG has a 20k price over a regular A Class the Astra Extreme could've been similar...

I don't know if an AJ OPC Extreme Astra could've blown this class wide open or not, probably would've been competitive for sure, remember there's also the VW Golf R Extreme said to be coming and the new Audi RS3 which will be built specifically to match up to the new AMG A Class, probably best for Opel to steer clear of all that competition so that they're not directly competing in those price points...

As for the A250 yes except for the shell and some interior trimmings it is completely different from the AMG incuding the transmission, so if you didn't like the trans in the A250 it's definitely different in the AMG...

Your choice of going with the Astra is a good one as it's exactly what you wanted compared to all the other choices you sampled, that's what it's all about buying what you want for all your own reasons :)

Oh and the way we're going, one day everything will be made in China LOL

I know all about tooling, I started my own watch brand some time back, and yeah, it was not cheap!
I am happy with the Opel, no complaints this end, just wondering out loud, why not take it a step further.
Same as most concepts, everyone is blown away, saying if they make that, I will buy it! But they very rarely do make the shown concept and most of the time they do not even make the same styling.
Seems to defeat the purpose.

I do hope to afford the A45 late this year, or 2015 if the updated one comes, but I do plan to keep the Opel.

[guy 27]

dutchy

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1959413_775175922493657_630898602_n.jpg

[faneca]

Saw this on fb. Drool!

[dutchy]

dutchy

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1959413_775175922493657_630898602_n.jpg

FAP FAP FAP :crazy: :arf: would suit me perfectly. Cheaper than a Porsche too I guess ;)

[Silver Surfer]

Very Cool
dutchy

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1959413_775175922493657_630898602_n.jpg

[hazrd]

FAP FAP FAP :crazy: :arf: would suit me perfectly. Cheaper than a Porsche too I guess ;)

Imagine the response to the engine bay pics......

[dutchy]

Imagine the response to the engine bay pics......

and the quad exhausts :)

[hazrd]

:lol: oh my, mechanical orgy?

[dutchy]

:lol: oh my, mechanical orgy?

:idea:

[dutchy]

guy 27 http://racinglistings.com/ads/opel-astra-opc-cup/

This one's for sale off the shelf (not street legal I guess)

[guy 27]

thats the full cup car. buy it!

[dutchy]

without gst, around 70.000 AU$, that's not too bad ! Own it for a year and then import it into Aus.

[guy 27]

http://youtu.be/vyDiLGLP3Os

[dutchy]

Thanks guy 27 FAP FAP FAP , that's porn.

[Elliot_O]

Sick trailer! Damn that thing looks good going fast

[guy 27]

some articles just written from the geneva motor show

http://www.t3.com/news/vauxhall-unveils-hardcore-hot-hatch-astra-vxr-extreme-at-geneva-2014

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/opel-astra-opc-extreme-brings-its-carbon-fiber-to-geneva-live-photos-77922.html

[dutchy]

some articles just written from the geneva motor show

http://www.t3.com/news/vauxhall-unveils-hardcore-hot-hatch-astra-vxr-extreme-at-geneva-2014

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/opel-astra-opc-extreme-brings-its-carbon-fiber-to-geneva-live-photos-77922.html

Oh, stop it please... can't handle any more in one day. Just need to know when I can sign up for one of these.

[Elliot_O]

And here's some desktop wallpapers for you dutchy
I've already changed mine to this one:
http://www.desktopmachine.com/pics/Opel_Astra_OPC_Extreme_2015_03_1920x1080.jpg

http://www.desktopmachine.com/press/2246/Opel_Astra_OPC_Extreme/

[guy 27]

Oh, stop it please... can't handle any more in one day. Just need to know when I can sign up for one of these.

send opel an email saying you are interested in purchasing one. its still a concept so unless they have enough people who say they will buy one they won't make it.

[dutchy]

send opel an email saying you are interested in purchasing one. its still a concept so unless they have enough people who say they will buy one they won't make it.

will try. my email address is blocked so might have to make a new one

[gman]

If I knew they were building this I might have waited and not built mine...Nah, I'd just have both!!! :lol:

Love this and the Cup car is a very nice thing. Fix the oil surge issue and you're all set...

[guy 27]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/05/egurera8.jpg

[dutchy]

gman Glenn, we go 50/50 and buy the Astra extreme :) Can park it at my place, no problems at all :)

[faneca]

gman Glenn, we go 50/50 and buy the Astra extreme :) Can park it at my place, no problems at all :)

Or buy two and park both at yours?

[dutchy]

Or buy two and park both at yours?

I'll build a special garage for that :)

[gman]

LOL, I'll take it under consideration ;)