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dutchy
28th June 2011, 09:15 PM
So, last week in Europe, I drove the VW Scirocco (not the one in the pics, spotted this one in Germany) and must say that though it has a very solid feel, great interior and looks great, it drives a bit like a tank, feels slugish and the seats seem to be made of concrete. Gearbox is smooooth as and the steering is very direct. This wasn't the top spec model though. I think my money would be on the golf r. Having said that, it would be great to see a few of these babies on the Australian roads.

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rjastra
29th June 2011, 10:13 AM
So, last week in Europe, I drove the VW Scirocco (not the one in the pics, spotted this one in Germany) and must say that though it has a very solid feel, great interior and looks great, it drives a bit like a tank, feels slugish and the seats seem to be made of concrete. Gearbox is smooooth as and the steering is very direct. This wasn't the top spec model though. I think my money would be on the golf r. Having said that, it would be great to see a few of these babies on the Australian roads.


Which model was it? diesel, 1.4tsi, 2l tsfi?

Wraith
29th June 2011, 12:00 PM
We're only getting the R here in Aust.

No doubt on account of all reviews and tests it'll be an awesome vehicle to drive which should not dissapoint...

I'm going to try and book myself in advance for a test drive from the VW stand at the International Motor Show next week :)

Vectracious
29th June 2011, 12:00 PM
They look awesome, but Golf would be way more practical.

dutchy
29th June 2011, 12:06 PM
The one that I drove was the 1.4 tsi bluemotion which is the cheapest version owned by a mate. Would have loved to try the 2.0 with the 6 dsg box which I might do at the next visit to Europe but gotta go go into a dealer for that. Or if they have, the R version.

Wraith
29th June 2011, 12:11 PM
The one that I drove was the 1.4 tsi bluemotion which is the cheapest version owned by a mate. Would have loved to try the 2.0 with the 6 dsg box which I might do at the next visit to Europe but gotta go go into a dealer for that. Or if they have, the R version.

If you can get your hands on an R then that would give us an accurate idea :)

Despite the Golf R and also the upcoming Scirocco R being stated as de-tuned for Aust. conditions, they seem to put out the same power and performance numbers here as their O/S counterparts from some material I've read, so comparison wise they should drive/feel the same...

dutchy
29th June 2011, 03:13 PM
If you can get your hands on an R then that would give us an accurate idea :)

Despite the Golf R and also the upcoming Scirocco R being stated as de-tuned for Aust. conditions, they seem to put out the same power and performance numbers here as their O/S counterparts from some material I've read, so comparison wise they should drive/feel the same...

Yeah, they should feel similar on paper, that's what I thought too, but the scirocco being slightly longer, wider and heavier, drives much different to a golf (having driven plenty of these). Golf has more of a go-kart feel to me compared to the scirocco which feels like a tank, very heavy. Still a nice drive though but not as good as I expected. To try an R version would indeed give a better idea as the 1.4 doesn't have any go at all. Wait till September - October as i'll be going back again.

Wraith
29th June 2011, 05:16 PM
Yeah, they should feel similar on paper, that's what I thought too, but the scirocco being slightly longer, wider and heavier, drives much different to a golf (having driven plenty of these). Golf has more of a go-kart feel to me compared to the scirocco which feels like a tank, very heavy. Still a nice drive though but not as good as I expected. To try an R version would indeed give a better idea as the 1.4 doesn't have any go at all. Wait till September - October as i'll be going back again.

Sorry dutchy - I meant that a Euro Scirocco R should be the same as our Aust. Scirocco R when it arrives, so if you drive one over there, we'll know what it's going to be like over here :)

I may have miss lead talking about the power levels info that VW Aust. quote...

tjay
29th June 2011, 11:24 PM
I've driven the 2ltr diesel with DSG,and can only say WOWZER.If I had a spare £30k I would have one tomorrow.

rjastra
30th June 2011, 01:30 PM
The Scirocco R is close to 150kg lighter than a Golf R.

hazrd
30th June 2011, 01:46 PM
The Scirocco R is close to 150kg lighter than a Golf R.

any idea why it might feel more like a tank then?

JohnBu
30th June 2011, 02:16 PM
Could be the 1.4L engine.

HoldenAstra
30th June 2011, 04:02 PM
Could be the 1.4L engine.
+1

dutchy
30th June 2011, 08:45 PM
It's the engine indeed. Was the 1.4 and is slow as. No go at all and the car just felt heavy. Guess specially if you're used to more power. Expected more but the r version with more power, probably different shocks, would be better.... I hope.

guy 27
30th June 2011, 08:48 PM
front on, i think its one of the best looking cars to date.

dutchy
30th June 2011, 08:53 PM
front on, i think its one of the best looking cars to date.

correct, it does look stunning. The r version is just pure porn and I hope to keep the pants clean when I drive it.

JohnBu
1st July 2011, 08:59 AM
Having seen it in France & Italy, suprisingly didn't see one in Germany (did see lots of GTIs there), I'm not a fan of the rear. The front looks superb.

I do wonder how well the R puts down it's power with FWD? Does it have an LSD?

My chipped GTI struggles to put down the power with a claimed 183kW & 405Nm with the stock tyres/suspension. I may get put on some fresh rubber on the front soon.

Wraith
1st July 2011, 12:13 PM
any idea why it might feel more like a tank then?

Would definitely be because the base models are not as lively as the more powerful R :)


Having seen it in France & Italy, suprisingly didn't see one in Germany (did see lots of GTIs there), I'm not a fan of the rear. The front looks superb.

I do wonder how well the R puts down it's power with FWD? Does it have an LSD?

My chipped GTI struggles to put down the power with a claimed 183kW & 405Nm with the stock tyres/suspension. I may get put on some fresh rubber on the front soon.

Agree + 1 on the looks John...

The front right up to 2/3rds down the side of the car are pure porn, but the rear quarter panels and tailgate let it down...

The tail lights are looking real dated IMHO, they need to be livened up a bit with full LED internals like the the Golf, new Eos and lots of other VW models now get...

The Scirocco R gets the same 'psuedo' LSD set up as the Mk6 Golf Gti, which is a better set up than the MK5 Gti's in terms of putting power down...

Reviews seems to suggest that stock standard the Scirocco R does a very good job at putting its power down, with increased power depending on how much (stage 1 remap puts it at 240kw / 450nm) it's anyones guess, there should be plenty of reviews out there on modded Sciroccos :)

Red AH SRI T
3rd July 2011, 04:08 PM
I was really wanting one of these, I was constantly asking my VW Area manager if they were coming and he always said no. So I bought the RS Megane. And after seeing a Scirocco in person I'm kinda glad I didn't get one, and by all reports it doesn't handle as well as it should

This Fifth Gear review between Focus RS, Scirocco R and Megane RS is very interesting:

http://youtu.be/75kL24n30t8

GTA900
3rd July 2011, 09:39 PM
It would be better if is rear wheel drive