Hybrid SSD Drives

[poita]

Anyone used one of these yet?

Considering it as an upgrade to my laptop, without going too over the top and going to a full 500gb SSD

Looking at one of these -> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2-5-Seagate-Momentus-XT-500Gb-7200Rpm-SATA-Hybrid-SSD-/270726044627?pt=AU_Components&hash=item3f08879bd3#ht_4040wt_1139

[hazrd]

*clicks watch*

looks pretty good.. will defo look at one soon :)

[Ice]

just not convinced with these which is why i bought a proper SSHD although for 120 gig it cost $245 but the difference is quite pleasant ;)

[dieselhead]

Don't bother, go full SSD instead plus some 2TB on eSATA for mass storage. I have installed a few hybrids in notebooks. While faster than plain hdds they're nowhere near an SSD speed wise and could still fail due to mechanical shocks or overheating.

[poita]

i have about 4tb+ on network storage, i dont use a desktop anymore.

i dont have any use for one.

my laptop has a 500gb, and i dont want to lose and capacity as i use a fair bit on it (currently sitting at about 55% used)

so dropping to a smaller drive isnt an option.

i dont care about failure, i image my entire drive once a month and back up on a weekly basis.

just want something faster without going to a full SSD

[JohnBu]

I was thinking of getting one of these to replace the 160gig 5400rpm drive in my laptop, as I'm running out of space and I don't run a wireless server/NAS.

SSD is too small, unless you have $$$$

500gigs for $120 seems reasonable..

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/storage/Seagate/Momentus/XT/boottime.jpg

It seems to load up quicke after learning a few times...

Downside is batter life... seems to use alittle more power than a normal 7200 drive :(

[poita]

will be defin getting one looking at those numbers

im never away from power for any length of time

[Dahlia]

i have about 4tb+ on network storage, i dont use a desktop anymore....
...i dont care about failure, i image my entire drive once a month and back up on a weekly basis.
What kind of server do you have?... I have 8tb's worth of WD My Book hard drives on my desk lol.

[jameshill]

I would get one for sure, especially after seeing the results against a raptor....

[poita]

What kind of server do you have?... I have 8tb's worth of WD My Book hard drives on my desk lol.

none. servers for a home are a waste imo

I just have a Netgear Stora plugged into my router. has 2 x 1TB HDD in Raid in it. Then I have a MyBook Mirror Edition (2TB) and 2 x 1TB drives all running off the Stora.

Then have 500GB in my laptop and another 1.2TB in my now dead desktop.

Can log into the stora anywhere in the world if I need anything, easy as :)

[PO15KA]

sorry for reviving old threads... will this drive suit a normal desktop PC? says "best fit application - Laptop, high end workstation etc etc..." i have a Core2duo E8500 setup, worth getting this hybrid drive or just stick to normal HDD's ?

[delemonte]

This would work in a desktop but you also have other options in a desktop that aren't as common in a laptop.
e.g. RAID

[poita]

Raid still nowhere as quick as SSD though, but much more reliable

[Bloodnok]

Raid still nowhere as quick as SSD though, but much more reliable

I think the point is, with a desktop you have physical space - so you can have an SSD for the data that will benefit from it, and a normal disk for bulk storage. Whereas in a laptop, you don't have the luxury of multiple disks. That's where the hybrid comes into play.

[poita]

Also that :)

[poita]

Well mine turned up on Friday :)

Will be doing a full image on my hdd and transferring it all over.

Will see how much of a difference it will make

[guy 27]

whats this full image thing?

does it mean that nothing will be lost or changed on a hard drive swap?

[Ice]

whats this full image thing?

does it mean that nothing will be lost or changed on a hard drive swap?

Yep, Windows 7 gives you that option ! a direct replacement

[poita]

theres a windwos 7 one?

using acronis true image

boot from disc and does a full image to an external drive.

100% exact copy. i've used it a few times

[guy 27]

thats brilliant :) might need to look at getting one.

let me know what the win7 rating is for it. if its in the 7's i'll get one.

[Ice]

thats brilliant :) might need to look at getting one.

let me know what the win7 rating is for it. if its in the 7's i'll get one.


my sshd only gets 6.9....wont get higher than that !

[Dahlia]

I just received my SSD for my carpc. I can't wait to see if its noticeably quicker than a normal HDD.

[guy 27]

my sshd only gets 6.9....wont get higher than that !

seems you can ;) http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/32032-best-windows-experience-index-hard-drive.html

looks like different sshd get different speeds.

[Ice]

seems you can ;) http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/32032-best-windows-experience-index-hard-drive.html

looks like different sshd get different speeds.

i have the same hard drive as that guy and have less ?!

anyway i dont care, everything i click on is instant !

[poita]

here are the drive speed tests, so its about 20mb/s faster. which is a 33% gain.

im happy with that for the price. the computer boots faster, programs load much quicker.

general transfers between hdd and network seem to be a bit quicker.

here are the before and afters. if anyone else knows any other ones to run let me know

[Ice]

Pretty good gains, if you notice it anyway.

30% is like 33kw on a 100kw car, so youde take it :)

Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk

[poita]

yer exactly, and for $139 its even better ;)

[metry]

yer exactly, and for $139 its even better ;)

139 thats crazy cheap. how big was the ssd part of the hd?

[poita]

the SSD part is only 4gb. what it does is recognise the files you use the most and cache them in that part of the drive.

the actual drive itself is 500gb

[metry]

so compared to a normal ssd? which do you prefer. i was hoping to build a new computer at the end of this year start of next when i have more cash (and can afford it). i was hoping to get two ssd's in raid 0 and run my current 500gb drive to store stuff on. would you say that these hybrid drives are a much cheaper alternative giving good bang for your buck?

[poita]

great bang for buck

but nothing beats the raw speed of a full ssd.

they are just damn expensive!

[metry]

yeh thats true. my mate had two 120 gb ssds in raid 0. start up and shut down are pretty damn quick. i suppose it all depend on how much i want to spend (and how much cash ive got)

[dieselhead]

How do you like my ultrabook's disk access speed?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/atomidude/ATTO_UX31.jpg

[poita]

Personally I would of bought the Toshiba Z830 over the Asus UX31 :p

[dieselhead]

Can't see why... mine has a 1600x900 screen, looks better and runs well.

[MAD-16V]

Something wrong with your benchmark there..

[dieselhead]

Nope, there's nothing wrong with it :)

[poita]

Can't see why... mine has a 1600x900 screen, looks better and runs well.

From memory the Z830 has a lot more inputs (usb, hdmi, sd card etc)

And how's the font on a 13.3" screen at that res?

[MAD-16V]

Nope, there's nothing wrong with it :)

Unless you have a ramdisk setup then yes there is something wrong with it :)
Max throughput of sata 3 6Gbit devices is 600Mbytes a second ( you'd be lucky to get this speed )
So you mean to tell me you have some mystical 4 Giga Byte per second SSD?

[dieselhead]

Busted! Playing with fancychache at the moment, it is such a laugh as you can see :D
The SSD by itself only reads at 500 MB/s. How slow is that for a laptop? Pft, ultrabooks...

[MAD-16V]

I recently put a Sandisk SSD into my new gaming build - 545MB a second is great :) - But on another machine we were testing, We set up a ramdisk and were getting close to 8GB! a second!

For video editing and high bandwidth applications a ramdisk is incredible.

[dieselhead]

I have this cunning plan of building a 4 x 120GB SSD RAID 0 via a proper PCI-E card, good for 1.7 GB/s. Should be sweet for a system drive, ha? Might set me back about $800 after I bought the SAS to SATA cable and the 4 x 2.5" rack to keep it neat, but speed matters, isn't it? :-)
... and then there's room for 4 more disks on the second port of the RAID card... if only the bloody disks wouldn't be so expensive...

[dieselhead]

From memory the Z830 has a lot more inputs (usb, hdmi, sd card etc)

And how's the font on a 13.3" screen at that res?

Nope, most ultra books have the same number of ports and mine has all the ones you mentioned.
Fonts are sweet on the screen at that resolution. I use it most of the time plugged into a 24" screen anyway...