What car to buy

[CNBLU]

Tried finding the other thread i had going but i'll start from scratch anyways.

We are getting closer to purchasing a new car and have narrowed it down to a few cars and wanted to get some feedback from you guys on which is a good purchase and which is not.

The car has to be auto and i would like it to be diesel with leather seats and we have a budget of up to 30k.

Here are the contenders

Hyundai i30 SLX CRDi
Holden Cruise CDX
Ford Focus TDCi
Peugeot 308 XSE HDi

[poita]

have never driven any of these

but hers my opinion, for what it's worth.


i would look at the i30, know a few people with them, diesel's in particular and they love them
cheap to run, comfy, decent ride, have a semi decent stereo

thats about all i have to offer :)

parts/servicing for the i30/focus would most likely be cheaper and easier to get hold of too

[droodles]

ford focus or peugeot!

[guy 27]

stick away from the Pug unless you plan getting rid of it once its 2 years old.

[Z20LET]

What about the Mazda 3 MZR-CD as another option.....

[dutchy]

Peugeot 308 XSE HDi

Have never driven any of the other cars. I think the Pug has got the most features of all the ones you mentioned. From experience, I do know that the Pug does drive great, good seats and servicing is every 20.000 k's. Small disadvantage of the Pug is getting hold of parts after a serious accident. Otherwise great car to drive.

[chrissn89]

Either the i30 or Cruze. my grandparents have a 2010 i30 in diesel and auto and they love it, good ride, enough power for them and excellent fuel Eco. A friend of mine at work has a diesel auto cruze and she loves it, nice interior to look at, good size medium car and nice smooth power plus fairly good fuel Eco not as good as the i30 tho.


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[Greg K]

What about the Mazda 3 MZR-CD as another option.....

the diesel Mazda's are manual only atm.

[Vectracious]

You really cant go wrong with any of those cars but if I were to pick one, it would probably be the Focus as its probably dynamically better than the others (not having driven it, just going on what I read from reviews)

have you test driven all of them Gav?

[mr corsa]

get sum balls sunshine and get this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYrN664_n3E&feature=channel

[Vectracious]

get sum balls sunshine and get this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYrN664_n3E&feature=channel

fuel consumption would be about the same as a diesel :p

[CNBLU]

You really cant go wrong with any of those cars but if I were to pick one, it would probably be the Focus as its probably dynamically better than the others (not having driven it, just going on what I read from reviews)

have you test driven all of them Gav?

Nah i will be going for a test drive next week, im leaning towards the i30 or the cruize but not 100% which one yet. The wife wants a pug but again im unsure, especially about service and parts, would it not be expensive?


get sum balls sunshine and get this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYrN664_n3E&feature=channel

Tony your just full of wisdom buddy :p

[gman]

My parents have just bought a Golf GTD diesel as a run around (they have an Audi and a Landcruiser but wanted something small) and it is a fantastic little car. I'd recommend it over any of those above. They looked at all sorts of things and it was the standout of the crowd by a huge margin...They got a demo for under $30k and there are a few around that come in for your budget.

They did a recent trip from NSW to Kangaroo Island via Broken Hill and back thorugh Victoria and managed over 1100km's to a tank...Not bad for cruising at 120KPH...

[Calibrated]

GTD with DSG. yes please.

[mr corsa]

dont get the new car til after you race your car this sat 18th dec at calder then you will get a time the want to spend more money on the astra

[CNBLU]

Thanks for the tip Glenn but all the GTD's ive seen are around 45k? Are they 4 door? Have they got room for kids?

[CNBLU]

dont get the new car til after you race your car this sat 18th dec at calder then you will get a time the want to spend more money on the astra

I'll always be spendng more money on the astra, just gotta look after the wife with this one :D

[mr corsa]

astra turbo disel station wagon

[gman]

Thanks for the tip Glenn but all the GTD's ive seen are around 45k? Are they 4 door? Have they got room for kids?

Yes and yes...There are the other diesel Golf's in the range...Def worth having a look

[Ice]

You really cant go wrong with any of those cars but if I were to pick one, it would probably be the Focus as its probably dynamically better than the others (not having driven it, just going on what I read from reviews)

have you test driven all of them Gav?

Test drove the Focus Diesel and its pretty torquey from stock which i liked about it, At 100km it moved all over the rd and the road noise was terrible...not sure if it was tyres or not, interior was way to simple and I thought the stereo was really bad.

the biggest thing which put me off however was the cruise control. Any car I have come across has had it on either the indicator or wiper stalk but the focus has a third below the left wiper stalk, not only did I find it bulky (credit card size) I found it really fiddly to use when i was trying to set it and my knees kept hitting it. I know this will be less of a problem for someone shorter but its like they just slapped something together and it completely f**ks up the ergonomics in the car.


The Hyundai I30 I loved to drive, i have only driven a petrol but it felt roomy, has stacks of compartments, bluetooth and iPod connectivity and felt pretty solid.

havent driven the peugot but know its a good car, infact right up there with the best of them and comes with a little euro prestige.
I dont know why you say to sell it after 2 years guy...your thinking of the peugot's of old.

as for the cruise......I dont like it but have only ever sat in one...it is afterall a rebranded Daewoo !

Shame about the mazda though as they only come in manual (god only knows why ?)

[Ice]

Have they got room for kids?

:eek6:

[Ice]

astra turbo disel station wagon

May aswell get a petrol Astra.....their economy sucks ass.

[boorny88]

I test drove a focus diesel that my dad got lent to try out for work and they have some torque behind them they have heaps of room and really comfortable i liked it. my grand parents have an i30 and love it they cant put anything past it i would def look into those two gav and both with plenty of room in the back for kids

[dutchy]

[QUOTE=CNBLU;637325]Nah i will be going for a test drive next week, im leaning towards the i30 or the cruize but not 100% which one yet. The wife wants a pug but again im unsure, especially about service and parts, would it not be expensive?



Well, my wife has got a Pug. It's the 207 but that one has got the same features as the 308, just a bit smaller. Service is cheap. Every 20.000 km's at a cost of around 120 dollars each till now (except for the first 2 at 5000 and 10.000 k's, as these were free or cheaper). Every 10.000 km's, it's going in for a free service check. We just did the 80.000 k's service and that one was the most expensive and big one till now at just under 700 dollars. So all up, it's been very cheap car. Wouldn't get the sunroof though as that gets extremely hot. Ah yeah, the stereo in these cars are fantastic. Just my 2 cents.

[btm]

the i30 would get my vote, followed by a tie for the focus and cruze next

from personal experiences, i personally wouldnt touch a pug again

[Ice]

haha Boorny likes the focus, I cant stand it,

Dutchy likes the pug and btm hates it....there you have it.....the one constant seems to be the i30.

[Shadow110]

+1 i30...
Seems to be the best buy at the moment, I think I was reading about it in a hot 4s mag (yes I know).
And from memory they tuned it and it pumped hard.

[JohnBu]

I wouldn't drive a i30.

Does it have to be new and diesel?

I think you have be doing a diservice to yourself limiting your options to diesel..

diesel automatic small car doesn't really make sense, diesel 4WD is a different story.

Golf GTD is also a good one... Gman's parents must have got the deal of a century, unless it's the regular TDI103, even that is a bargain at under $30k.

My choices for an auto car for ~$30k are:

Demo Mazda 6 with 50km is selling for $28.5k drive away... http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.aspx?trecs=89&tsrc=allcarhome&__Ntk=CarAll&Cr=1&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&R=8606651&seot=1&__Ntt=mazda%206&silo=1011&__sid=12C64A1667BC&keywords=mazda%206&__D=mazda%206&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201252%204294965340%204294961345%201621&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode%20matchany

Demo Honda Accord Euro, $32k drive away... http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.aspx?__Qpb=true&tsrc=allcarhome&__Ntk=CarAll&Cr=0&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&R=8300487&seot=1&__Ntt=accord%20euro&silo=1011&__sid=12C64A1667BC&keywords=mazda%206&__D=accord%20euro&SearchAction=N&trecs=95&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&__N=1216%201252%204294965322%204294965100%201621&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode%20matchany

[J]

Not sure if this is correct, but to get full leather seats in an i30, it can only be for the i30CW, and in the range-topping Sportswagon guise. But that is not available in a diesel. The non-wagon i30 SR hatch also has leather, but only for parts of the seats, and is again a petrol-only proposition. Perhaps you can option up an SLX diesel to include full leather, but I am not sure about this.

A friend bought a new Cruze CDX diesel recently. It does have leather, and the torque is very apparent. However, the ride (at least at low speeds) seems to be a little terse, and the noise levels were quite noticeable. Having said that, with his long distance bumper-to-bumper commutes, he has already done 6,000kms in his, and he says fuel consumption has dropped from the initial 8.5L/100km when new, to 8L/100km, which I don't think is too bad. But bear in mind, he is not a leadfoot, so for most people, it will be probably use a bit more than that. It may be hard to drive a brand new one away for less than $30k, though...

Ford Focus seems OK on paper, too. The gearbox is actually a Powershift (not to be confused with the old Powerglides! lol): Ford speak for dual clutch. Gear changes apparently not as snappy as the VW DSG, but unlike its rival, there is also apparently less tendency to hesitate during take off. Not sure if the Powershifts use dry or wet plate clutches...I would think that the latter would cost more to service? Leather also does not seem to be standard on the TDCi's, although they might be available as an option.

Not sure about Peugeots, so I can't comment on those.

Did I hear someone mention an Astra diesel auto? Definitely nowhere near as fast or economical as the manual, but I think MY08.5 onwards does have full leather. Perhaps a green/red box will resolve the performance/economy issue, but then again, the same can be said for the other models, too.

Sorry I cannot be of more help!

[JohnBu]

For a family car, if it must be Auto & Diesel.. I don't think you can go wrong with a Skoda Octavia RS DSG

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?trecs=49&tsrc=allcarhome&__Ntk=CarAll&Cr=1&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&R=9629400&seot=1&__Ntt=skoda%20octavia%20rs&silo=1011&__sid=12C64A1667BC&keywords=skoda%20octavia%20vrs&__D=skoda%20octavia%20rs&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294776569&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode%20matchany

or one with leather http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?trecs=49&tsrc=allcarhome&__Ntk=CarAll&Cr=3&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&R=9158736&seot=1&__Ntt=skoda%20octavia%20rs&silo=1011&__sid=12C64A1667BC&keywords=skoda%20octavia%20vrs&__D=skoda%20octavia%20rs&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294776569&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode%20matchany

[Ice]

For a family car, if it must be Auto & Diesel.. I don't think you can go wrong with a Skoda Octavia RS DSG

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?trecs=49&tsrc=allcarhome&__Ntk=CarAll&Cr=1&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&R=9629400&seot=1&__Ntt=skoda%20octavia%20rs&silo=1011&__sid=12C64A1667BC&keywords=skoda%20octavia%20vrs&__D=skoda%20octavia%20rs&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294776569&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode%20matchany

or one with leather http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?trecs=49&tsrc=allcarhome&__Ntk=CarAll&Cr=3&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&R=9158736&seot=1&__Ntt=skoda%20octavia%20rs&silo=1011&__sid=12C64A1667BC&keywords=skoda%20octavia%20vrs&__D=skoda%20octavia%20rs&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294776569&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode%20matchany


Now your talking, very good car !

[xplosv57]

What happened to getting a 120d LOL!

[Ice]

What happened to getting a 120d LOL!

also very nice.....

[CNBLU]

Thats also a possibility

[Wraith]

Tried finding the other thread i had going but i'll start from scratch anyways.

We are getting closer to purchasing a new car and have narrowed it down to a few cars and wanted to get some feedback from you guys on which is a good purchase and which is not.

The car has to be auto and i would like it to be diesel with leather seats and we have a budget of up to 30k.

Here are the contenders

Hyundai i30 SLX CRDi
Holden Cruise CDX
Ford Focus TDCi
Peugeot 308 XSE HDi

Choices above are good...

For 30k also consider TD Mazda 3, and TD Golf with DSG.

Have you also considered the new Polo range ?

Unless it's too small for your requirements and if you go to a little over 30k look at the new Polo Gti, it's petrol powered but fuel consumption of 5.9ltrs/100km is similar to your average 2.0ltr oiler but with much better performance and 7spd DSG is standard...

[CNBLU]

Thanks ange, will also look at the golf TDi. The polo is far too small.

[poita]

and as already said, the TD Mazda 3 only comes in manual

[Wraith]

Thanks ange, will also look at the golf TDi. The polo is far too small.

It's grown to the same size as the old Mk4 Golf, but if a current Golf/Mazda 3 is the size your after, then yes it's too small for you :)


and as already said, the TD Mazda 3 only comes in manual

Oops correct you are, forgot about that one :)

[CNBLU]

Going down to VW to test drive the polo TSI, TDI and GTi

Any tips before i head down?

[hazrd]

to add to your PM's mate re tuning...

The GTi will be the most tuneable (none available for the MY11 yet though, still working the bugs out of them)
The diesel will cost the most for tuning, but will make up for it with the savings in the cost of fuel (currently available upto MY10 i think)
The TSi does have tunes available now (including a K04 upgrade), but they arent cheap

no matter which one u choose you will be pleased with the drive... Im hoping u can get into a GTi for a drive but they have limited stock at the moment so they may not have one in stock (although the one on springy road is pretty big)

If you end up wanting to look at a 9N3 GTi (my model - 2006 - 2009) feel free to call me up and u can have a drive of mine, only thing is, i dont think the 9N GTi's came out in auto unfortunately

have fun

[CNBLU]

Thanks for the offer Adz. Will report back in anhour or so, the place is in frankston

[CORZZA]

The focus is an overall great package

Have you had a look at the new polo diesel?

[CORZZA]

If you can spare an extra $2-4K the Mondeo TDCI is worth a look too

[CNBLU]

Well just came back from driving both the 1.2 TSI and the 1.4 GTi

I'll just start off by saying both are in a different league to each other.

The TSI comes with a sports pack and is ocean blue. Looks very nice and has enough space in the boot for shopping /pram. Its surprisingly nippy and the DSG gearbox is amazing. Very quiet and you cant even tell your doing 100 on the freeway. Driveaway price he gave me was 26k.

The GTi's interior is pretty special, great seats and it also has the paddles for the DSG. Alot more grunt and the fuel economy is still very good. The only down side is the boot space. Its tiny and not sure if anything else beside a pram will fit in it. Driveaway price he gave was 31.5k.

Still want to go for a drive in a i30 but i really like the TSI. Its quick enough for my wife coming from a pug and it also looks the part. Didnt really look at the TDI because theres not much difference in economy.

[CNBLU]

Also went for a drive in the i30 late this afternoon. Was not a pleasant drive! The gearbox isnt the best and does not offer smooth gear changes like the DSG. It does however come with a 5yr unlimited km warranty and if you service it there you get another 3 yrs.... so thats a 8yr unlimited km warranty!! Its got alot more space but is a heavier car. Im really confused now :( The TSI is a very nice car to drive and will be going down again next week some time.....

[Vectracious]

Gav, what did you mean by a 1.4 GTI in the golf??

[hazrd]

Gav, what did you mean by a 1.4 GTI in the golf??

he meant the new polo GTi pete ;)

[CNBLU]

Yeah the golf is stretching the budget a bit so the 2011 polo it is. Very impressed i was!

[Vectracious]

he meant the new polo GTi pete ;)

ah crap - didnt realise that - isn't the polo a bit small though Gav (for what you want it for in the future)?

[CNBLU]

Thats why its a tough decision. It is small but not too small, it will fit a pram in the boot no probs but not the GTi :( so have to discuss with the wife on which is best for our needs.

[poita]

and so i have learnt the hard way.

with a hatch the mounting points for a baby seat are at the back of the boot, so the strap goes over the seat and through the middle of the boot

thus reducing what you can get in and out of the boot without having to undo the baby seat

just something i thought i'd add

[Vectracious]

Thats why its a tough decision. It is small but not too small, it will fit a pram in the boot no probs but not the GTi :( so have to discuss with the wife on which is best for our needs.

if you are going to keep the turbs, you'll have to get D something more practical if kiddies are on the cards the next two years. Nothing smaller than a Golf definitely - because those prams take up quite a bit of room (and thats not including everything else you need to cart around - plus room to put shopping in etc on top of the kid stuff).

[Vectracious]

and so i have learnt the hard way.

with a hatch the mounting points for a baby seat are at the back of the boot, so the strap goes over the seat and through the middle of the boot

thus reducing what you can get in and out of the boot without having to undo the baby seat

just something i thought i'd add

god makes an excellent point!!

[rjastra]

I've just purchased a new 1.4 Polo GTI (get it in Jan). Lots of car for the money and definitely a step up on the old one.

Will have to see if I can avoid getting it APR'd for awhile :)

[CORZZA]

I was impressed with the polo GTI.

Comfortable, nimble and pretty quick too

[hazrd]

I've just purchased a new 1.4 Polo GTI (get it in Jan). Lots of car for the money and definitely a step up on the old one.

Will have to see if I can avoid getting it APR'd for awhile :)

i only lasted 5 months before tuning mine :lol:

[Wraith]

Yeah the golf is stretching the budget a bit so the 2011 polo it is. Very impressed i was!

Congratulations :clap: the new Polo Gti has got to be one of the best buys going for what it is and what it offers for the ask price...mainly a high quality compact car with hi performance combined with hi efficiency...


Thats why its a tough decision. It is small but not too small, it will fit a pram in the boot no probs but not the GTi :( so have to discuss with the wife on which is best for our needs.

I didn't want to mention anything earlier that in fact it isn't 'that small' it only appears to be until you sit inside it, but since you've seen it I've checked it out too in direct comparison with my Calibra initially thinking the Polo was smaller...instead the 3 door Polo is actually a little wider (internally) both front and rear and has loads more headroom, it's shorter but only in the rear seating area which dosn't matter in my case as it's mainly for myself most of the time and one passenger only most other times...plenty of room for anyone with that scenario, a Golf or other choice of that size would be better to cart prams/kids around :)

I purchsed a new Toyota Yaris (3 door) earlier this year for the missus and they too are not as small as they appear, actually quite big inside...plenty of room for 2 adults and/or a baby seat in the rear of that one, not sure if a pram will fit in the back though...


I've just purchased a new 1.4 Polo GTI (get it in Jan). Lots of car for the money and definitely a step up on the old one.

Will have to see if I can avoid getting it APR'd for awhile :)

Congratulations to you too :clap:

If all goes well I should be test driving one before the end of this year or early next year and if it impresses me the way I think it will after checking it out a couple of weeks ago, it looks like I'll be pulling the trigger on one too in the near future as my new daily driver :)

Only difference for me is it'll be a 6-7 month waiting excercise/delivery period because I want it pretty much fully optioned and none are on the showroom floor that way...

Also don't know about you, but if I get my hands on it it'll have the APR multiple switchable maps for the 1.4 twincharger loaded ASAP...155kw/320nm will make it an absolute ripper to drive as well as being efficient...


I was impressed with the polo GTI.

Comfortable, nimble and pretty quick too

You'll be even more impressed with the impending Polo R...which should land here before the end of 2011...

Still only front wheel drive (so similar weight to Gti) but with a 160kw/310nm 1.6ltr turbo engine, I reckon it will definitely be a sub 6sec vehicle...

[2002_XC]

Thats why its a tough decision. It is small but not too small, it will fit a pram in the boot no probs but not the GTi :( so have to discuss with the wife on which is best for our needs.

My 5cents is that a polo or a golf is going to be way too small. Don't forget that you have to get a capsule seat in for the first six months which will NOT fit in either of those. If you're looking at kids it's impractical. Why don't you borrow a pram off of a friend and see if it will fit in the boot, then think about shopping bags etc at the same time, the boot of the veccy c is the perfect size for us, which is why the barina was useless. Anyway, that's my thoughts, I'd be looking at the cruze / mazda 3/6

[Nurb608]

As Kylie said above ;) I couldn't put the kids in the astra until they were able to sit facing forward.

[2002_XC]

The capsule just fit in the veccy c. Just keep it in mind :)

[Wraith]

My 5cents is that a polo or a golf is going to be way too small. Don't forget that you have to get a capsule seat in for the first six months which will NOT fit in either of those. If you're looking at kids it's impractical. Why don't you borrow a pram off of a friend and see if it will fit in the boot, then think about shopping bags etc at the same time, the boot of the veccy c is the perfect size for us, which is why the barina was useless. Anyway, that's my thoughts, I'd be looking at the cruze / mazda 3/6

Cruze CDX diesel is out and is around the same price as the Polo Gti (without options).

Certainly I'd have to agree, if you need a vehicle to cart family/kids around in, then you need bigger than a compact hatch...

Gav. might use it for himself only, in which case it'd be hard to pass up something as sweet to drive as the new Polo Gti :)

[2002_XC]

Cruze CDX diesel is out and is around the same price as the Polo Gti (without options).

Certainly I'd have to agree, if you need a vehicle to cart family/kids around in, then you need bigger than a compact hatch...

Gav. might use it for himself only, in which case it'd be hard to pass up something as sweet to drive as the new Polo Gti :)

He did say it was for his wife :p

Gav, if you want to borrow a carseat/ pram we have some here you can borrow or at least measure up, but you will need a medium size sedan at a minimum. So your ballpark size is bigger than an astra h

[xplosv57]

Ange, the car is for Gavs wife and future family additions.

[CNBLU]

Yeh ive ruled out the polo :( will have a look at the cruise on tuesday. Thanks for the feedback guys....and gals:)

[poita]

yer with the capsule the seats are a fair way forward in our mazda 6.

me being almost 2m tall im cramped in the passanger seat, and a little squashed in the drivers seat.

another thing to consider

[2002_XC]

yer with the capsule the seats are a fair way forward in our mazda 6.

me being almost 2m tall im cramped in the passanger seat, and a little squashed in the drivers seat.

another thing to consider

It's worse when you have 2, cause they have to be on either side of the car

[Wraith]

He did say it was for his wife :p

Gav, if you want to borrow a carseat/ pram we have some here you can borrow or at least measure up, but you will need a medium size sedan at a minimum. So your ballpark size is bigger than an astra h


Ange, the car is for Gavs wife and future family additions.

DOH...:D

Pity, as it's such a great little car...

Hopefully the Cruze checks out ok...also maybe as a suggestion for Gav. check out the new Sube Liberty range, size wise they should be similar to the Mazda 6 and new Kizashi sedans and price point starts at around 30k drive away...

[rjastra]

Take the Polo GTI chassis and engine. Stick it in a Skoda Fabia and make it a station wagon

Skoda fabia vRS Estate

http://www.autoroyalty.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/car_photo_360490_25.jpg

[Vectracious]

have to agree with everything with small kids has said above - as well as they package the interior in these small cars, they do struggle with all of the stuff that comes with kids.

next meet I'll bring our Mountain Buggy 3 wheeler just so you can see how big the damn thing is even when it is folded up....

[rjastra]

have to agree with everything with small kids has said above - as well as they package the interior in these small cars, they do struggle with all of the stuff that comes with kids.

next meet I'll bring our Mountain Buggy 3 wheeler just so you can see how big the damn thing is even when it is folded up....

Remember when people used a stroller when bundling their kids in a car or taking the kids into town. The SUV facination has been translated in the pram design - lol.

[Vectracious]

Remember when people used a stroller when bundling their kids in a car or taking the kids into town. The SUV facination has been translated in the pram design - lol.

LOL - yep, although we've got both a stroller and the big 3 wheeler, and the little bloke looks way more comfortable in the Mountain Buggy - too bad we had to sell the Astra and get the CR-V to cart it around :p :D

[CNBLU]

Well after a very long day we bought a new car. A bit left field as its none of the cars mentioned and a bit over budget but the interest rate was just too good to pass up.

[2002_XC]

So what did you go with?

[hazrd]

Judging by mention of interest rate, possibly Toyota?

[CNBLU]

Oh shit forgot to mention it :lol:

VW Jetta 1.4 twincharged :D

[xplosv57]

Great... another bloody Vag owner.

Nah congrats!

[CNBLU]

Haha but im not a mod or a cruise leader :p

[hazrd]

we're taking over :devil:

good stuff mate :D

[xplosv57]

Haha but im not a mod or a cruise leader :p

Hahaha nah you become one once you don't own an Opel anymore!

[CNBLU]

Well that wont happen for a while so I wont ban you :p

Cant wait to get it!! Such a nice drive.

[Ice]

Well that wont happen for a while so I wont ban you :p

Cant wait to get it!! Such a nice drive.

And has balls !

[rjastra]

http://www.goapr.com.au/products/ecu_upgrade_14tsi_twin.html

150kw :)

[Shadow110]

I love all these newer age turbo cars.
My cuz has the golf perelli Ed. And it's stupid quick for a little car. And my mate just picked up a gold r and it's "holy shit" quick for a stock car

[Vectracious]

Great news Gav, you'll love the Jetta


Great... another bloody Vag owner.

Nah congrats!

Get a GTI and stop whingeing... :p


Haha but im not a mod or a cruise leader :p

Touche!


we're taking over :devil:

good stuff mate :D

mwahahahahahaha :D

[Ice]

Its such a good car and the drop in prices makes it almost unbeatable for what you get.

I just want one ! :)

[Wraith]

Oh shit forgot to mention it :lol:

VW Jetta 1.4 twincharged :D

Congrats Gav. good choice in the end :)

Power wise AFAIK the Polo Gti 1.4 TC goes to 155kw/320nm with APR...should hopefully be the same for the Jetta unless there are differences with components ??

BTW forgot to mention, the 1.4 TC engine has been voted World engine of the year 2010 :)

[sooty]

Nice choice gav
We had our jetta tdi for 4 years without a single issue, Danni should love the reliability (so should your wallet :lol:)

[hazrd]

Power wise AFAIK the Polo Gti 1.4 TC goes to 155kw/320nm with APR...should hopefully be the same for the Jetta unless there are differences with components ??


correct - although it doesnt come cheap - $1700
GIAC do it for $1100 and DNA do it for $880... With the same power figures ;)

Although with what shes coming from, she wont need it anytime soon!

[CNBLU]

Well we have done half a tank and hit 400kms! Its so zippy for a 1.4 so wont be doing a tune for a while, its eniugh for Danni coming from a pug :)

Didnt know that about engine of the year Ange thanks for that.

Its such a pleasure to drive, bit different to the astra :lol:

Thanks for your comments guys!

[JohnBu]

Its such a pleasure to drive, bit different to the astra :lol:



Going soft in your old age Gav? haha

just watch out for VW service cost... avoid the dealer if you can... I take mine to Audvolks in Clayton.

[Wraith]

correct - although it doesnt come cheap - $1700
GIAC do it for $1100 and DNA do it for $880... With the same power figures ;)

Although with what shes coming from, she wont need it anytime soon!

Don't know about those other tuners Adam, but the APR one comes with multiple tunes (3) installed to which you can then select from the cruise control stalk as in other VW's...you get the stock map + the hi-po map + a lower power/rev limited vallet map, it's a great way to go being able to dial up whichever you want, when ever you want well worth the money IMO :)

If the other tuners have the same, for alot less coin then it's definitely worth looking into...

[JohnBu]

For the extra $820 that APR charges over DNA, I would expect the APR to have a feature that will scratch my balls with it's itchy and blow me while I'm stuck in traffic to kill time.

* I have an DNA Tune on my GTI & don't care much for valet or stock mode.

[hazrd]

For the extra $820 that APR charges over DNA, I would expect the APR to have a feature that will scratch my balls with it's itchy and blow me while I'm stuck in traffic to kill time.

* I have an DNA Tune on my GTI & don't care much for valet or stock mode.

+1
Not wanting to fill Gavs thread with useless crap so in extremely short words, it's shit :p

[Wraith]

For the extra $820 that APR charges over DNA, I would expect the APR to have a feature that will scratch my balls with it's itchy and blow me while I'm stuck in traffic to kill time.

* I have an DNA Tune on my GTI & don't care much for valet or stock mode.


+1
Not wanting to fill Gavs thread with useless crap so in extremely short words, it's shit :p

Not so...

It's definitely something anyone should consider if they've purchsed their VAG new and want the tune/s from the get go !!! if it's 2nd hand or out of warranty, fair enough you may not be as worried about wanting the stock map handy, but what if you ever wanted to bring it back to stock ?? it does happen alot you know...

Even if not, being able to switch back to stock whenever you want or needed to (fuel/wear n tear savings, servicing etc.) is enough to warrant the extra expense of having that feature/convenience :)

Each to their own I suppose, for me as with my turbo Astra I'd want to have multiple maps available, it also helps with re-setting as well as after time remaps tend to 'soften up' for many reasons so re-setting or reloading them puts them back to operating afresh as when 1st installed :)

[Nurb608]

You don't have to reload the map the reset it though, just disconnect the battery to reset the fuel tables etc. As for being able to switch maps, i used too, now i just control it though the Go pedal :)

[CNBLU]

All relevant info guys! Dont mind the banter either. Im guessing the stock tune would come in handy when taking it in for a service?

[Nurb608]

All relevant info guys! Dont mind the banter either. Im guessing the stock tune would come in handy when taking it in for a service?

Depends if it's got a cam, lol.

[Wraith]

All relevant info guys! Dont mind the banter either. Im guessing the stock tune would come in handy when taking it in for a service?

Yep, as said if it's a new purchase then that's only one of many advantages of having the APR or any other tuner with multiple maps, the beauty of these too is that they can be changed very easily in no time at all from one to another :)

AFAIK you could probably find a contact to also get em onto your own computer so as to be able to delete them from your ecu altogether if the need arises to do so...that's what alot of us here are able to do with the various Astra T maps :)

[Wraith]

As for being able to switch maps, i used too, now i just control it though the Go pedal :)

I suspect not all peeps would be that disciplined with their right foot :)

With map self swapping it all comes down to individual need/s and the convenience to do so yourself...

[CNBLU]

Depends if it's got a cam, lol.

Lol, this ones gonna be stock for life!

[Nurb608]

Lol, this ones gonna be stock for life!

Oh come on, there's nothing like droping the car off for it's service and having a cam with the stock map, lol.

[Nurb608]

I suspect not all peeps would be that disciplined with their right foot :)

Very true ;)

[hazrd]

Fine then. In that case.. the GIAC tune is switchable between stock/tune/valet and is STILL much cheaper than APR's

Look, im not trying to rag APR, im just saying that there are other tuners out there that do basically the same tune for a much better price (give or take a kw or two)... take the APR exhaust for example... 3 grand?!?! are you out of your mind!!! Im sure its good quality and all, but im sure you can get the exact same setup with exact same materials for less than $1500

[Wraith]

Fine then. In that case.. the GIAC tune is switchable between stock/tune/valet and is STILL much cheaper than APR's

Look, im not trying to rag APR, im just saying that there are other tuners out there that do basically the same tune for a much better price (give or take a kw or two)... take the APR exhaust for example... 3 grand?!?! are you out of your mind!!! Im sure its good quality and all, but im sure you can get the exact same setup with exact same materials for less than $1500

Good one Adam...agree as mentioned in one of my posts above, it's the 'multiple maps' that are of interest rather than an individual one done only remap, when the time comes (July-August) I'll shop around for the best deal for my VAG too :thumbs:

[JohnBu]

Which VW or Audi you getting Ange?

[Wraith]

Which VW or Audi you getting Ange?

VW polo Gti :)

Will replace my Cali as my everyday DD :)

With most options ticked, so hence the wait, plus you don't need to purchase it until March-April to still fit in the July/August delivery dates...so maybe I may swap over the the Polo R if it's released by then ???

Picking up a new Toyota Corolla sedan for another family member next Friday :)

Hanging to check out both the new BMW 1M and new Merc C class coupe later this year/early next year as I'm still wanting a nice coupe to sit along side my vert :D

Damn I need more garage space :(

[Shadow110]

+1 on the polo gti I love it

[Wraith]

+1 on the polo gti I love it

AFAIK rj's just bought one too :D

[CNBLU]

Yeah great choice Ange. If it wasnt for the lack of boot space i would have gone for that too!!

[hazrd]

mmmmmmmm, nom nom nom, love the new pogs

did u manage to get one with the sunroof? iirc they werent going to be available in the options list for order until late this month, which sucks for the ones that ordered theirs last month lol

edit
scratch that... just re read it, panoramic sunroof was available for order from 26/12/2010 and production of the sunroof in all optioned up models begins this month..

[rjastra]

AFAIK rj's just bought one too :D

I cancelled mine.... Rethought the outlay on a car I only drive 8K km a year

People who ordered cars with options are looking at 6-9 month waits.

Best bet is to get one with nothing additional.

The MKV Golf GTI saga is being revisited. Remember when people were waiting huge times to get a specifically optioned Golf GTI around 5 yrs ago.

You provide the customers with numerous options and suddenly dealers wont stock any 'standard" cars for fear of not being sold. So in effect EVERY car becomes a special order with huge lead times.

[Wraith]

I cancelled mine.... Rethought the outlay on a car I only drive 8K km a year

People who ordered cars with options are looking at 6-9 month waits.

Best bet is to get one with nothing additional.

The MKV Golf GTI saga is being revisited. Remember when people were waiting huge times to get a specifically optioned Golf GTI around 5 yrs ago.

You provide the customers with numerous options and suddenly dealers wont stock any 'standard" cars for fear of not being sold. So in effect EVERY car becomes a special order with huge lead times.

Sorry to hear that rj...I'm still keen to go ahead but as said I don't need to commit until March at the earliest to still fit into the build slot for Aust. July/August delivery...so we'll see what happens.

But yeh it's a 5-7 month wait on any VW or even Audi, BMW or Merc. etc. if you order one specific to your needs, otherwise you just take what's on the showroom floor...I'm in no hurry so long lead times are of no concern to me, what's important to me is to get exactly what I want within a certain budget I've set for it :)

AFAIK no new Polo Gti's currently landed here are optioned in any way, there are all bone standard which for me is not what I want...way too under equipped for my liking...

As far as options go on this model, there's not a great deal and it dosn't end up costing the Earth either to get most into the car, unlike say a Golf which can end up costing another 50% + over its base price, the Polo Gti with everything except sat nav. added adds approx. 6k to the drive away price of the car (at least that's the deal I've got going) but will end up being less than that if I go ahead...

If I do go ahead, I'll at least want the active bi-xenon/LED DRL headlights and the 2/3rds length glass panoramic roof with built in sunroof and visor feature, that should only add around 3k to the price of the car...