Opel eyeing Australian Market

[glider]

thanks to rory for making me aware of the article

http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/car-news/opel_eyes_aussie_market


"Opel is an icon of German engineering. For markets such as China, Australia and South Africa, Opel can be a premium brand. We’ve got great, award-winning cars," Reilly tells Stern magazine in Germany. The strategy is to rather focus on China, Australia and South Africa."

[adam_92]

there was something similar to this posted around 6 months ago iirc. And il say what i said back then. Il belive it when it happens. If it happens

[Nurb608]

Really hope it does come to fruition. I've driven these cars for over 10 years and really have no idea what i would go into next.

[hazrd]

Ahhhh look! The boys crying wolf again :p

[nuggz]

Really hope it does come to fruition. I've driven these cars for over 10 years and really have no idea what i would go into next.

Mitsu 4wd with a scroll or 2

u know u would!

[Nurb608]

Mitsu 4wd with a scroll or 2

u know u would!

Evo 6 or 10 next unless on the odd chance the insignia vxr comes out here

[Shay]

if they make the move ill back em, might even look for a job with them...

[OpelTigra2005]

I hope this happens. Id love a 2010 Astra VXR, 2 door coupe. Im drooling just typing this thread. If anyone wants to read the article it is on http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/car-news/opel_eyes_aussie_market/

Enjoy

[gmonkey]

if they make the move ill back em, might even look for a job with them...

+1 I would be first day the announce it

[kabel]

Ditto...undecided what to replace the VXR with,although that is a while off still for me !

[Vectramatic]

thanks to rory for making me aware of the article

http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/car-news/opel_eyes_aussie_market

That's an interesting article, more competiton in Australia. I love the Opel product, and the way it's built, way back to the first 'Holden' Opel Barinas of the 1990's. Good luck to them

[poita]

gonna gets me an insignia for sure :D

[gmonkey]

gonna get me a corsa vxr :)

[ChrisMaz]

Gonna steals me a set of dem Insignia Rims.

[Shay]

and make them fit how........
wrong stud pattern im pretty sure mate ;)

[ChrisMaz]

They sure are. Honestly don't care. I'd steal a set just to have them sitting in my room. Mmmmm Insignia rims.

O.T

At least theres a tiny glimmer of hope to have an opel in Aus now. Not that Holden sound overly excited about the whole idea.

[Nurb608]

and make them fit how........
wrong stud pattern im pretty sure mate ;)

Yep, same as the commodore ;)

There are replicas that fit ours however :D

[IfSRi]

Damn-

maybe I should stop researching Golf's and Mini's and wait lol.

[adam_92]

Damn-

maybe I should stop researching Golf's and Mini's and wait lol.

if it does happen i recon it will be a while off yet

[kabel]

They sure are. Honestly don't care. I'd steal a set just to have them sitting in my room. Mmmmm Insignia rims.

O.T

At least theres a tiny glimmer of hope to have an opel in Aus now. Not that Holden sound overly excited about the whole idea.
Kind of like "We don`t sell Astra`s any more and neither will anyone else" !

[gmonkey]

Yay No more Opel barinas they will have to be really called Opel corsas! I really wonder what pricing we would get.

I'd say price point would have to be close to vw it won't be cheap cars anymore.. Corsa = polo, astra=golf, insignia=jetta, Opel speedster/calibra convertible = eos?

[rjastra]

Opel has no/zip/nada brand awareness here. They also dont have a cheap manufacturing base to export well priced cars to Australia from (VW has SA, Spain and Mexico)

[xplosv57]

Not sure how well Opel would survive as a sole brand, it would most likely join in as a subsidary to SAAB or something like they do now with Hummer etc, rjastra also makes a good point, to import the cars straight from Germany to here, i could only imagine the retail prices, kind of the reason why Holden got rid of the problem in the first place!!

But heck if it does happen, put me on the Insignia VXR order list!!

[Shay]

opels are still made in RSA and Mexico tho arent they?

and selling Astras and Vectras will give immediate brand awareness. Pretty much every one has heard of them

[poita]

obv they wouldnt be able to use barina, would come down under as corsa?

[gmonkey]

But vectra is dead model now..

Insignia is made in china pretty sure

[Wraith]

Not sure how well Opel would survive as a sole brand, it would most likely join in as a subsidary to SAAB or something like they do now with Hummer etc, rjastra also makes a good point, to import the cars straight from Germany to here, i could only imagine the retail prices, kind of the reason why Holden got rid of the problem in the first place!!

But heck if it does happen, put me on the Insignia VXR order list!!

I also agree with the assessment you 2 guys have made...but like the others, I hope something real comes out of it...

Never really been a fan of the Insignia myself, but I'd be overly keen on a new AJ Astra, both 5 and 3 door variants get my nod...

And at the remote possibility of a new sexy as Cali ever becoming reality again, I'd just have to have one...

[rjastra]

How about this as a crazy idea.... Import them as Buicks :)

[lithium]

and if they do come down here, i'd want them to have this:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/77544/vauxhall-uk-introduces-industry-first-lifetime-warranty/

160000km unlimited years warranty ftw :)

[Wraith]

and if they do come down here, i'd want them to have this:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/77544/vauxhall-uk-introduces-industry-first-lifetime-warranty/

160000km unlimited years warranty ftw :)

That would be awesome, but it'll never happen here in Aust.

Might match up to Mitsu's 10year warranty for competition and that's it IMO.

BTW I wish they'd stop showing pics that 'Opel Camry' with sideways 'V' headlamps in all their articles...it's really starting to make me spew everytime I see it...

[cyclonic]

Opel can source the vehicles from its Port Elizabeth, South Africa plant to keep the costs down. The Corsa D and current Astra are made there.

Having said that, I dare say Holden will veto the idea based on its 64% majority stake in GMDAT (GM-Daewoo, now being re-branded as Chevrolet as GM believe the Daewoo brand is beyond repair) and the risk that any Opel import could cannibalize margins from its Korean sourced product. Not to mention it would have an impact of its local manufacturing of the hatchback Cruze when its released later this year and the low profilt margins to be had from the Opel-based product if its imported from its European plants. Take it from me - Holden is under strict orders from Detroit to be profitable and to not take any drastic risks. They won't want to mess with the status quo.

I'll believe it when I see a Corsa D sitting in my local Holden dealer's forecourt. Then i'll be trading my Corsa C on it right away!

[VXRshop.co.uk]

Yeah i cant believe you guys dont have the Corsa D, when I've been its been Corsa B's and C's (Barina's). Its just a shame you guys are missing out on OPC and VXR models. But looking online and speaking to my brother in law down under there is a lot of cross breeding with Chevy's. Hope you guys get Corsa D's fingers crossed.

[gmonkey]

Corsa d vxr for me yes please!!! :p I just love how cool they look.. Except it been said the z16let/l is rather rubbish quality engie

[Nurb608]

Corsa d vxr for me yes please!!! :p I just love how cool they look.. Except it been said the z16let/l is rather rubbish quality engie

Only the 4th piston :)

[gmonkey]

Only the 4th piston :)


good to know cause im under the impression the z18xer uses the same pistons :p

[Nurb608]

Not so much an issue with the piston itself. Believe its a fueling issue or something like that.

[gmonkey]

Not so much an issue with the piston itself. Believe its a fueling issue or something like that.

again sounds like whats going on with my engine... (i think i had detanation the other day :( )

[Ice]

Well !

I played golf today and one of the guys I played with happened to be the GM for Holden National sales !

He saw my opel and asked me all sorts about it and me in turn asking about does the AFM really work on the V8's etc etc

I asked if he think Opel is coming to Australia considering all the competition and he said quote "Not if but just when and how" then going on to mention that they just need to work out the best way to do it. So Ide say he was a pretty good source. I also mentioned the lifetime warranty business and he said again quote "thats news to me" lol which made me feel like a right dork, haha

so all in all good news boys :)

[bornwild]

Yeah it'd be really awesome if Opel came to Oz under it's own name. I just have a feeling the only thing that would change from past ventures IS the name...

[sooty]

Slightly off topic but :yikes: holy crap it's Nermin! Lol

[ChrisMaz]

This has got me pretty excited...

http://www.caradvice.com.au/81848/opel-heading-for-australia-and-remaining-separate-to-holden/

There is hope!

Main article.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,5946344,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-bus-2091-rdf

[gmonkey]

Ermm they didn't mention holdens best selling Opel the astra :p and opels have always been sold in south America I thought if they're not Chevrolet

[Ice]

Yeah it'd be really awesome if Opel came to Oz under it's own name. I just have a feeling the only thing that would change from past ventures IS the name...

he did mention they'll be using their own original branding.

[CORZZA]

This would be a win if it did happen. The cruze as a replacement for the astra is just substandard

[gmonkey]

Just a question.. If they do come here, who would seriously buy one out of us? Given let's say we get the astra's 3variants + opc, corsa + limited opc and insignia + opc.

Say as estimates
astra j cd = $24000 Sri=$28000 opc=$47000 twintop?= $52000
Corsa d cd=$18000 Sri=$24000 opc=$34000
insignia cdx=$32000 cdxi=$39000 opc=$57000


It'd be a lot of money for most of them for first few years till they settle in if they do.. And import fees are going to effect prices badly. Lol my guesses are probably pretty wrong... But if that's roughly what it might be out of the line up deff would be corsa opc or astra Sri :p


Note twintop are always overpriced new ahah think the h's were about $50k

[2002_XC]

They are essentially similar prices when I was at Holden. Back then the base barina was 19990 plus onroads. I would get one.... Or two

[glider]

given the talk of being a supposed premium brand, I daresay they would slap a premium price on them...

as such I think your estimates are way too optimistic brenton

[gmonkey]

True yeh I was estimating as it being a mainline brand not a premium.. Slap another 5-10k for premium ahhaah

[2002_XC]

I'd still buy two. Their reliability is unheard of of late. My car is the best car I could have purchased, no issues, clutch going at 215000k I wouldn't hesitate to buy it based on reliability alone, but that's me

[hazrd]

I've read this paragraph over and over again and I'm still not following it





Stuermer expects Opel will initially export cars to China until it establishes a market position in the country. But eventually, he said, the company will need to assemble cars locally to avoid import taxes, which can increase the price of vehicles by as much as 20 percent.


So, if it's going to cost more to assemble the cars locally, why not just bear the importing cost onto the customer instead of slugging them for having to put it together???

[glider]

no, they mean the import tax increases the price by 20%

[hazrd]

no, they mean the import tax increases the price by 20%

Ahhhhhhh now I get it, holiday brain :rolleyes:

[rjastra]

Say as estimates
astra j cd = $24000 Sri=$28000 opc=$47000 twintop?= $52000
Corsa d cd=$18000 Sri=$24000 opc=$34000
insignia cdx=$32000 cdxi=$39000 opc=$57000



HOw about:

Corsa = no show. There is no margin at that end of the market. Engine offerings are also a bit limp.

Astra = All 5 door models : 23-25K for base spec. Lux spec at around 30K. Engine with around 100kW (1.4L turbo)
Sport spec 5 door with around 140-150kw in the high 30s (36-38k). Forget an OPC version.

Insignia = Priced at Euro Accord prices. Use of the 2.4L direct injection engine and one TDI option. No sports model. A Luxo version using the 2.8L v6

[gmonkey]

if we are getting the astra i have no doubt in my mind we will get the 3dr and more than likely a turbo variant.. they did sell very well

also insignia would be looking at Passat pricing i think..

[ChrisMaz]

I think Opel would strive to undercut the passat by at least a few grand. They'd be better off making less profit for the first few models introduced to boost brand awareness then maybe bring in the performance models later.

All this talk is getting my hopes up, just hope it doesn't turn into another Caddy coming to Australia bail.

[gmonkey]

caddy CTS-V yum ahhaa

[poita]

do want insignia now

[ChrisMaz]

If/When Opel come to Australia, would they be required to stock parts for older Holden branded Opels? Or would we still be forced to go through Holden who have no idea?

Wonder if Irmscher will also offer products through Australian Opel dealers.

[poita]

I'm guessing that Holden will be required to stock these parts

[gmonkey]

id imagine both would stock as they are both GM arms and technically GM is the supplier/middle man

[Theo]

just surfing the net when I found this:-
http://europe.opel.com.au/

there is nothing on there...it is saying under construction.

interesting to say the least!!

[poita]

based in texas

[Shaun]

Opel has no/zip/nada brand awareness here. They also dont have a cheap manufacturing base to export well priced cars to Australia from (VW has SA, Spain and Mexico)

Nor did Hyundai and Kia when they hit Australia when they 1st hit Australia. But they seem to be doing well now.

[poita]

fuk he's alive, hey princess.

long time no speak

[Shaun]

fuk he's alive, hey princess.

long time no speak

LOL. It has been a while Poita. I See nothing has changed here though....

[cyclonic]

I still won't believe it till I see it! I hate to sound cynical, but I just don't see it happening. Its going to be a couple of years before I can afford a replacement for my Corsa, so i'm happy to wait. Corsa E?

[Shaun]

I still won't believe it till I see it! I hate to sound cynical, but I just don't see it happening. Its going to be a couple of years before I can afford a replacement for my Corsa, so i'm happy to wait. Corsa E?
+1

[Ice]

I still won't believe it till I see it! I hate to sound cynical, but I just don't see it happening. Its going to be a couple of years before I can afford a replacement for my Corsa, so i'm happy to wait. Corsa E?

I spoke to the GM of Holden national Sales and he said it was for sure....you watch before you know it we will be driving just another Opel ;)

[Nurb608]

The NZ site has been registered too ;)

Thanks to NZVXR

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Registrant Contact Phone +49 13136654967
Registrant Contact Fax +49 13136655
Registrant Contact Email [email protected] ([email protected])

[poita]

full info ;)


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[poita]

just surfing the net when I found this:-
http://europe.opel.com.au/

there is nothing on there...it is saying under construction.

interesting to say the least!!

and i dont think that will be the address


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[Red AH SRI T]

Holden eyes Opel


Premium brand: Opel's Insignia might be under consideration for Australia as part of an Opel-branded range.
Volkswagen the target as GM Holden studies Opel brand launch in Australia

14 September 2010
By MARTON PETTENDY
GM HOLDEN is investigating the feasibility of introducing Opel as a stand-alone brand in Australia for the first time.

General Motors’ continental European brand could become a direct rival for Volkswagen as early as next year.

Australia and China were named “priority markets” for exports of Opel models last month by Nick Reilly, who became chairman of Adam Opel GmbH in January, as part of the German-based car-maker’s drive to return to profitability.

Now Holden chairman and managing director Mike Devereux has confirmed Opel is under study for release in Australia and GoAuto sources say highly regarded models like the Corsa, Astra and Insignia could be released here within just 12 months.

“There’s obvious synergy between Opel and Holden,” Mr Devereux told GoAuto in Adelaide on Friday. “There could be a niche for that kind of brand here in Australia. I don’t know how we would position it, but we’re looking at it.

“Opel has made some statements recently about getting healthy and getting profitable in Europe, which I think they’re doing. They’ve also made some statements lately about export ambitions and obviously we’re talking with them about the potential (for Opel) here in Australia.

“So we’re talking to them, we’ll do something that makes sense if it makes sense and we’ll talk to you guys about it when we’re ready to do that.”

News of Opel’s potential introduction in Australia comes 20 months after the reversal of GM Holden’s decision to relaunch GM’s luxury brand, Cadillac, here just two weeks before the new mid-size CTS sedan was due for release, in January 2009.

Holden blamed the global financial crisis for its 11th hour rethink on Cadillac, but insiders now say the improved economic climate and stronger Australian currency could give Opel a better chance of success here than Cadillac.

“Opel is a little different to Cadillac, which is a very high-end product, so the two things aren’t all that similar,” said Mr Devereux. “Opels are not Cadillacs in terms of price points or customers expectations. We have no plans to introduce Cadillac.”

From top: Opel Corsa, Opel Astra Sports Tourer and Opel GTC Paris concept.

The plan to launch Opel here is made more logical by the disappearance of Saab from the GM stable. Now in the hands of Spyker, the Swedish brand was one of Holden’s now-defunct GM Premium Brands group, which also comprised Cadillac and Hummer.

While Opel’s British sister brand Vauxhall had an Australian presence in the 1950s, Opel’s introduction here would represent an about-face on Holden’s decision to discontinue models such as the Corsa-based Barina, the Vectra and, most recently, the Astra, in favour of Korean-built models from GM Daewoo.

Holden replaced the Opel-built Barina with a version of the Daewoo Kalos in 2005, while the Vectra made way for the Epica in 2007 and the arrival of the Viva signalled the end of the Astra in Australia last year. Although Holden attempted to localise each model to differing degrees, all models represented a significant shift downmarket from the German models they replaced.

The AH-series Astra coupe, hatchback and convertible range was axed, leaving the small Combo delivery van as the only remaining Opel-sourced model on sale in Australia.

GM Europe has since released an all-new Astra small hatch, joining the Vectra-replacing Insignia sedan, hatch and wagon, the latest Corsa light-car and the GT roadster. Opel also sells the Meriva and Zafira people-movers in Europe, along with the Combo, Vivaro and Movano vans.

Facelifted versions of those models could make Opel a direct rival for Volkswagen here, as it is in Europe.

The Corsa would compete with the new Polo (priced from $16,690), the Astra would rival the latest Golf (from $24,990) and the Insignia would take aim at the Passat (from $38,990).

Holden’s Korean-built models would remain cheaper, with a revised Epica mid-size sedan to continue to represent Holden at less than $29,000.

The all-new ‘Barina Spark’, to be launched at next month’s Sydney motor show, would open the Holden range with a sub-$15,000 pricetag and will be joined within 12 months by the Australian-designed, Korean-built Aveo light hatch. The Aveo will be sold elsewhere as a Chevrolet but will arrive here later next year to replace the current Barina, which should also remain cheaper than Corsa and Polo.

In between the Spark/Barina and Epica will sit Holden’s Cruze, which is currently priced from $22,990 drive-away with alloy wheels and enters production in Adelaide as a sedan in February, then in the third quarter of next year in hatch form, and both should undercut both the Astra and Golf.

Opel last week revealed a show version of its next three-door Astra coupe, dubbed the GTC Paris Concept, and next year will also introduce the Ampera plug-in hybrid, which is based on the Chevrolet Volt. That should go on sale in Australia in 2012.

The move could also facilitate the release of flagship performance versions of the Corsa, Astra and Insignia from Holden Special Vehicles (HSV), which could share federal certification, spare parts and other logistical costs with Holden.

Mr Devereux made it clear that GM’s European models – unlike its Korean vehicles – would not be sold here as rebadged Holdens, but as Opels.

“What Nick Reilly was specifically talking about was Opel-branded cars being sold in the international markets,” he said.

“Opel is looking not to supply cars for people to rebrand, which they do – we sell a Combo – but to actually to have Opel-branded vehicles in export markets.

“There are a number of countries around the world that are looking at the potential of Opel. They’re obviously talking about some other markets as well.”

One Holden source told GoAuto the Astra would be a core model within the Opel line-up, which could be launched here before the end of 2011 if all goes to plan.

GM reversed its decision to sell the Opel business last year, before its application for government loan guarantees were rejected in June. Instead, GM Europe said it would work with state governments in Germany to return its Opel and Vauxhall brands to profitability by 2012.

Germany is both Opel’s and Europe’s largest single vehicle market, but GM hopes markets such as China and Australia – followed by South America and other south-east Asian markets – can improve its financial fortunes.

Opel has a long history with Holden. Both the 1978 VB and 1997 VT Commodore models were based on Opel Omega designs, while the sleek Calibra coupe was perhaps the most memorable Holden-badged Opel.

“Opel was the source of product for quite some time from an engineering standpoint beyond Commodore,” acknowledged Mr Devereux.

“And if you look at the Commodore, it also has some German engineering roots from the 1990s Omega platform.”

Mr Reilly, who ironically once oversaw GM Daewoo’s Korean operations, told Germany’s Stern magazine in late July that “Opel is an icon of German engineering”.

“For markets such as China, Australia and South Africa, Opel can be a premium brand,” he said.

“We’ve got great, award-winning cars. The strategy is to rather focus on China, Australia and South Africa.

“We have to be able to compete with Volkswagen. If possible, we should have an even stronger brand. And in Germany we should be able to charge higher prices than the French or Koreans, but we will not attempt to copy BMW, Mercedes or Audi.”

from www.goauto.com.au

[kabel]

I say yes to all of the above.....JUST DO IT !

[gmonkey]

why do the VXRs through HSV but??? just do a OPC variant with opel..

[adam_92]

why do the VXRs through HSV but??? just do a OPC variant with opel..

yeah i dont understand that either. would make more sence to just leave them as opel opc's imo

[Wraith]

fuk he's alive, hey princess.

long time no speak

:yikes: I'm also in shock...Bornwild recently surfaced as well LOL


I still won't believe it till I see it! I hate to sound cynical, but I just don't see it happening. Its going to be a couple of years before I can afford a replacement for my Corsa, so i'm happy to wait. Corsa E?


+1

+ 2

But here's hoping !!! that new 3 door AJ would've been a big hit here for sure :)

[MatsHolden]

Another part of the puzzle fits into place...
Came accross this on an Australian TM database search today...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f320/MatsHolden/opelTM.jpg

[Nurb608]

Who's down Collins street, get to that address now :) That means you kylie!

[ChrisMaz]

I'd say they're preparing for some advertising.

[poita]

not much advertising space

http://i53.tinypic.com/2rnhjib.jpg

[MatsHolden]

lol 367 Collins Street is the address of the law firm who processed the Trademark claim.

[poita]

yer i know :p

im just bored

[MatsHolden]

haha fair enough.
Back onto Opel... it's all moving in the right direction so far... Touch wood.

[ChrisMaz]

Well its progressed further than when Cadillac was thinking of coming to Aus.

I'd say its imminent. Next question is how long will they last?

[MatsHolden]

Hasn't quite progressed as far as Cadillac had just yet; almost but not quite. Holden had actually officially confirmed Cadillac.

[GreyRex]

Very interesting this...

[Red AH SRI T]

Well its progressed further than when Cadillac was thinking of coming to Aus.

I'd say its imminent. Next question is how long will they last?

hmmmm no it hasn't. Caddy had cars here and was 1 week away from going on sale when they pulled the plug. Opel is no where near that.

[bornwild]

Slightly off topic but :yikes: holy crap it's Nermin! Lol

Heya!! What did you think I'd leave you guys alone?


fuk he's alive, hey princess.

long time no speak


LOL. It has been a while Poita. I See nothing has changed here though....

Shauny? That you??? Oh boy how I missed the chemistry between us hahaha


:yikes: I'm also in shock...Bornwild recently surfaced as well LOL





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But here's hoping !!! that new 3 door AJ would've been a big hit here for sure :)

Hahahaha Ange what's up my man??? Don't tell me you bought a TT???

[bornwild]

hmmmm no it hasn't. Caddy had cars here and was 1 week away from going on sale when they pulled the plug. Opel is no where near that.

I think that Opel has more of a business case in Aus than what Cadillac had...Cadillacs are for big american arses or small chinese ones...whichever you prefer.

[metry]

if opel markets themselves appropriatly like vw has, they should be around for a while. i mean its not like theyre selling cars that theres no demand for