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ROCCO
18th October 2009, 12:11 AM
Well its out this week. Whos getting it? Which Version?

Nurb608
18th October 2009, 12:42 AM
I'll get it after the test version runs out.

USC
18th October 2009, 12:59 AM
ultimate probably..but ill wait until i can get an OEM copy.

poita
18th October 2009, 08:27 AM
i get a free copy :D :D :D

cant wait for full release ;)

imo prices are pretty dam cheap too for a full OS

AH08
18th October 2009, 11:33 AM
I bought a new HP laptop and it comes with a free copy, registered and waiting for the disc to arrive.

poita
18th October 2009, 05:31 PM
I bought a new HP laptop and it comes with a free copy, registered and waiting for the disc to arrive.

top work :D

Calibrated
18th October 2009, 07:53 PM
i'll keep running the release candidate until i have to buy it. but so far, i love it. soooooooooooooooooooo much better than vista

poita
18th October 2009, 07:55 PM
i'll keep running the release candidate until i have to buy it. but so far, i love it. soooooooooooooooooooo much better than vista

did i mention i get it for free :p

that will cover one machine :lol:

willmost likely buy a volume licence for it to cover the rest of my machines, i heart W7

Calibrated
18th October 2009, 07:58 PM
did i mention i get it for free :p

that will cover one machine :lol:

willmost likely buy a volume licence for it to cover the rest of my machines, i heart W7
bastard.

any version?

poita
18th October 2009, 07:59 PM
not sure, most likely pro

i got ultimate AND home premium of vista though. also office.

we will see

carab
20th October 2009, 12:17 PM
got my copy installed today, Professional x64, runs a charm! :D

Although sometimes i felt the RC actually ran a bit quicker, just responsiveness wise. Games seem to run silky smooth as before.

Note: Ive had issues with the latest 64 bit win7 Nvidia drivers, the old ones 190.38 were fine, but now running 191.07 and had a couple of blue screens on boot with nvidia drivers being the culprit. Common nvidia, bad timing! fix it fix it fix it!

oneightoo
20th October 2009, 02:19 PM
i'll wait until service pack 1 comes out.. not interested in getting a new windows with a bazillion bugs, again..

unless, pete, you got anymore free copies?

:D

McTwistie
20th October 2009, 02:42 PM
You can look at this as Windows 7 Release, or Windows Vista SP3/4

Either way, this is worth having NOW - Even the first beta was better then the current VISTA with all patches and sevice packs.

I am the guy responsible for creating, supporting and upgrading our desktop environment (Over 1000 PC's). We never seriously considered implementing Vista.

WE are moving to Windows 7 x64 ASAP. (Ie, THIS YEAR)

Cheers

BEK-46P
20th October 2009, 03:17 PM
Does anyone remember Windows Me?

I skipped Vista and wondering which was the bigger fail -- Me or Vista?

Calibrated
20th October 2009, 03:27 PM
Does anyone remember Windows Me?

I skipped Vista and wondering which was the bigger fail -- Me or Vista?
do not mention that abortion.

ME is and will always be the biggest fail of an OS...

Nurb608
20th October 2009, 03:38 PM
Windows 98SE ftw :D

hazrd
20th October 2009, 03:39 PM
do not mention that abortion.

ME is and will always be the biggest fail of an OS...


i dunno
2000 SP1 was pretty bad......

Wraith
20th October 2009, 04:00 PM
Does anyone remember Windows Me?

I skipped Vista and wondering which was the bigger fail -- Me or Vista?

Does anyone remember the old DOS systems...LOL

Millenium wasn't 'that' bad, Vista is probably the o/a worse one so far...

Most companies I've worked for or associated with over the last several years have skipped it too...

Calibrated
20th October 2009, 04:32 PM
Windows 98SE ftw :D
nooo way, 3.11 for workgroups :D

i dunno
2000 SP1 was pretty bad......
yes, ME was just an entirely different level of FAIL

Does anyone remember the old DOS systems...LOL

Millenium wasn't 'that' bad, Vista is probably the o/a worse one so far...

Most companies I've worked for or associated with over the last several years have skipped it too...

Millenium WAS THAT BAD. Vista wasnt as good as it was promised to be, but it still did have improvements over XP. 7 is now what vista should have been.

and yes, i do remember dos. i started fiddling with computers when i was 5, on a 386 ICL machine with DOS. i believe Rock Man was my favourite game.

McTwistie
20th October 2009, 05:11 PM
Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was excellent for it's time !

You could even "GASP" NETWORK with it.... :yikes:

dieselhead
20th October 2009, 06:00 PM
I'm getting the Home Premium x64 for $110 with my new i7 system. Buying Micro$oft $oftware is a fist for me, that's telling more than anything how good 7 really is :)

The only problem I've got is sourcing the bloody 5850 graphics card, all dealers seem to be out of stock atm...

Calibrated
20th October 2009, 06:03 PM
I'm getting the Home Premium x64 for $110 with my new i7 system. Buying Micro$oft $oftware is a fist for me, that's telling more than anything how good 7 really is :)

The only problem I've got is sourcing the bloody 5850 graphic card, all dealers seem to be out of stock atm...
primarily because they havent landed in large quantities and most were pre-orders.

57XX is easy enough to get, 58XX is a tough task. what brand were you after?

dieselhead
20th October 2009, 06:06 PM
Aren't all generic right now? I haven't seen any difference between brands other than those stupid pictures of gay heroes they stick on the cooler and some software that is bundled with. Think I might have to wait until MSY gets it in stock. They've got everything ready for me but a 5850.

Calibrated
20th October 2009, 06:19 PM
Aren't all generic right now? I haven't seen any difference between brands other than those stupid pictures of gay heroes they stick on the cooler and some software that is bundled with. Think I might have to wait until MSY gets it in stock. They've got everything ready for me but a 5850.

pretty much right, all the same core and memory clocks. but some people have brand preferences :p i quite like sapphire these days. gigabyte and asus seem to have fallen behind with their graphics cards of late.

My suppliers have stock of Powercolor, Sapphire and Gigabyte for 5850's.

carab
20th October 2009, 08:46 PM
pretty much right, all the same core and memory clocks. but some people have brand preferences :p i quite like sapphire these days. gigabyte and asus seem to have fallen behind with their graphics cards of late.

My suppliers have stock of Powercolor, Sapphire and Gigabyte for 5850's.

had a gigabyte card (GTX 275) when i purchased my recent machine, thing was faulty and sent back so picked up a gainward. Lesson: never buy gigabyte :hand:

i remember my old sparkle Ti 4200... man that thing took a beating:rolleyes:

Calibrated
20th October 2009, 08:54 PM
had a gigabyte card (GTX 275) when i purchased my recent machine, thing was faulty and sent back so picked up a gainward. Lesson: never buy gigabyte :hand:

i remember my old sparkle Ti 4200... man that thing took a beating:rolleyes:
gigabyte mobo's are still excellent (i have a UD4P), i just wouldnt buy their gfx cards.

carab
20th October 2009, 08:58 PM
gigabyte mobo's are still excellent (i have a UD4P), i just wouldnt buy their gfx cards.

yeah latest boards are good, old ones ive had bad experiences with (P4 era). Until your mate spills noodles on it tho.... prob first Core i7 gone to the grave :(

Calibrated
20th October 2009, 09:03 PM
yeah latest boards are good, old ones ive had bad experiences with (P4 era). Until your mate spills noodles on it tho.... prob first Core i7 gone to the grave :(
:eek:

poita
20th October 2009, 09:51 PM
Windows ME is like a red head step child, you never admit that it belongs to you.......

Windows 7 as said shits all over the current run of Vista.

And yes I am in love with W7 :lol:

McTwistie
21st October 2009, 06:20 AM
Windows ME is like a red head step child, you never admit that it belongs to you.......

Windows 7 as said shits all over the current run of Vista.

And yes I am in love with W7 :lol:

Ditto X 2

Windows 7 = PC Full of Awesome :D

oneightoo
21st October 2009, 09:24 AM
heres a question..

my gf's laptop has vista *shudders* the type of install that cant be downgraded to xp (theres a thread about this somewhere as well)

will W7 install over vista? i mean, am i going to be stuck with this shit forever?

McTwistie
21st October 2009, 09:40 AM
Certain versions of windows 7 will UPGRADE certain versions of Vista. I am not clear on what ones they are.

A clean install is never a bad thing though..

Cheers

Calibrated
21st October 2009, 09:41 AM
heres a question..

my gf's laptop has vista *shudders* the type of install that cant be downgraded to xp (theres a thread about this somewhere as well)

will W7 install over vista? i mean, am i going to be stuck with this shit forever?
you can upgrade Vista to Windows 7, and keep all your doc's, settings, etc exactly how it was. i would definitely recommend moving up to 7 than backwards to XP.

or of course do a backup and clean install, which is always better.

Nurb608
21st October 2009, 09:41 AM
You can upgrade to W7, and i'd recomend it highly, especially on a laptop running vista. If you can, i'd recomend saving all your data and completely wiping the laptop and do a fresh install.

Calibrated
21st October 2009, 09:44 AM
run this to check compatibility

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=1b544e90-7659-4bd9-9e51-2497c146af15

oneightoo
21st October 2009, 11:56 AM
thanks you'se guys :D

lol

poita
21st October 2009, 02:57 PM
Windows 7 upgrade paths

http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/files/2009/08/windows-upgrade-chart.png

ads
21st October 2009, 04:38 PM
see you guys pay out windoez ME, what about 98 (before USB/ NON SE) and Windoez NT.. :P

I might Auctually get windows 7. =) w00! buying software ftw.

Calibrated
21st October 2009, 04:41 PM
see you guys pay out windoez ME, what about 98 (before USB/ NON SE) and Windoez NT.. :P

I might Auctually get windows 7. =) w00! buying software ftw.
well, when windows 98 came out, USB's werent exactly common.. it was still very new technology. as for windows NT. Get out. NT was awesome for what it was back then, it laid the foundations for the Server range (2000, 2003, 2008).

chrissn89
21st October 2009, 05:10 PM
how much should one pay for a copy of Win7 in either Home Premium or Professional?

oneightoo
21st October 2009, 05:33 PM
how much should one pay for a copy of Win7 in either Home Premium or Professional?

about $3.14 if you buy from China

chrissn89
21st October 2009, 05:44 PM
about $3.14 if you buy from China
in English with a license key i was thinking ;) :rolleyes:

poita
21st October 2009, 05:50 PM
Home Premium Full version - $299

only difference between Home Premium and Professional

- Login in to remote domains
- Load Virtual PC to run XP Mode (only runs on certain machines and wont work with all XP programs)

chrissn89
21st October 2009, 05:57 PM
cheers Pete so this is a pretty good buy then...

i know it OEM but not like that matters same software. Says its a full version so should be able to do a clean install

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-SEALED-MICROSOFT-WINDOWS-7-HOME-PREMIUM-32BIT_W0QQitemZ260492923018QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_s oftware?hash=item3ca696908a

poita
21st October 2009, 06:04 PM
Even though what he says is bullshit :lol:

OEM is OEM, not ifs or buts.

Honestly I don't know about OEM pricing, but from what I hear OEM is only about $115

chrissn89
21st October 2009, 06:09 PM
Even though what he says is bullshit :lol:

OEM is OEM, not ifs or buts.

Honestly I don't know about OEM pricing, but from what I hear OEM is only about $115
ill get in contact with my old workplace, i should be able to get a near cost price on an OEM Win7 Home Premium. Heres hoping its really as great as you guys say

daaaaavek
21st October 2009, 06:38 PM
see you guys pay out windoez ME, what about 98 (before USB/ NON SE) and Windoez NT.. :P

I might Auctually get windows 7. =) w00! buying software ftw.

Maybe it will come with a functional spell checker!

Calibrated
21st October 2009, 06:54 PM
microsoft is not gonna like him. OEM is there for a reason, to encourage NEW pc component sales.

Chris, i'll PM a price on Win7

chrissn89
21st October 2009, 07:06 PM
microsoft is not gonna like him. OEM is there for a reason, to encourage NEW pc component sales.

Chris, i'll PM a price on Win7
Cheers, awaiting PM :)

Calibrated
22nd October 2009, 08:21 AM
PM sent.

chrissn89
22nd October 2009, 11:21 AM
PM sent.
Done and done, many thanks Ash :)

oneightoo
22nd October 2009, 11:46 AM
getting my free ultimate copy this weekend..

gman
22nd October 2009, 12:05 PM
Got my free copy of Win 7 Ultimate. Clean install over the RC on both the laptop and PC.

New video cards in the PC...Life is good :D

Calibrated
22nd October 2009, 12:10 PM
the demand for windows 7 today is insane!

Ice
22nd October 2009, 12:11 PM
Got my free copy of Win 7 Ultimate. Clean install over the RC on both the laptop and PC.

New video cards in the PC...Life is good :D

free copy ? how ? haha

gman
22nd October 2009, 12:22 PM
Friends in low places.. ;)

oneightoo
22nd October 2009, 01:29 PM
Friends in low places.. ;)

we have similar friends :D

DEE-80Y
22nd October 2009, 03:19 PM
Friends in low places.. ;)


we have similar friends :D

You guys need to introduce me to these FRIENDS!

oneightoo
22nd October 2009, 05:41 PM
my friend works in it for a rather large company..

gman
22nd October 2009, 05:52 PM
my friend works in it for a rather large company..

my friend doesn't ;)

gman
22nd October 2009, 05:54 PM
You guys need to introduce me to these FRIENDS!

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/aussiegman/Funny/tony-montana-scarface-say-hello-to-.jpg

DEE-80Y
22nd October 2009, 06:13 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/aussiegman/Funny/tony-montana-scarface-say-hello-to-.jpg


Your friend aint that scary.....

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb48/DEE-80Y/Chuck.jpg

poita
22nd October 2009, 06:14 PM
we had heaps of demand for it today :)

could of been more though.

got some cracking new laptops in, and a kick arse desktop.

new hp laptop took 10 mins to setup.
thats from me opening the box, to being on the net and being able to use it :cornut:


also got the new elite series of HP's

2.8ghz i7, 8gb ram, 1.5tb hdd, 1.8gb GTX260se video card 64bit W7.
and OMFG is it quick!

PO15KA
22nd October 2009, 06:28 PM
i have a 2 year old PC with Vista Home Premium, i have used the Win7 RC for a while... should i upgrade to Win7 or should i purchase a full version of Win7 and install from scratch\clean install?

gman
22nd October 2009, 06:30 PM
If your running the W7 RC you'll need to do a clean install either way eventually...The RC make you do a clean install..

As said before though, a clean install is never a bad thing...I would go that route...

DEE-80Y
22nd October 2009, 07:00 PM
also got the new elite series of HP's

2.8ghz i7, 8gb ram, 1.5tb hdd, 1.8gb GTX260se video card 64bit W7.
and OMFG is it quick!


How much would one of these set me back? $$$????

poita
22nd October 2009, 07:04 PM
rrp is 2699

also has wifi, 10 usb ports, digital tv tuner, wireless kb + m, media centre remote

the machine on the far right
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/au/en/ho/WF25a/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-4011395.html

they look hot too

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/images/emea/HP-Pavilion-Elite-HPE-000-Desktop-PC-series-APJ_400x400.jpg

Jerram
22nd October 2009, 07:23 PM
I'm gonna go for the education discount; $50 for Professional. Might pick up office 2007 ultimate for an extra $75 while I'm at it.

Calibrated
22nd October 2009, 07:45 PM
rrp is 2699

also has wifi, 10 usb ports, digital tv tuner, wireless kb + m, media centre remote

the machine on the far right
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/au/en/ho/WF25a/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-4011395.html

they look hot too

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/images/emea/HP-Pavilion-Elite-HPE-000-Desktop-PC-series-APJ_400x400.jpg
GTX260. and i7 860... pass.

poita
22nd October 2009, 07:59 PM
its not a run of teh mill GTX260
it was built by nvidia for HP

has 1.8gb dedcated ram, like i said not the avarage run of teh mill video card ;)

hazrd
22nd October 2009, 08:04 PM
we had heaps of demand for it today :)


also got the new elite series of HP's

2.8ghz i7, 8gb ram, 1.5tb hdd, 1.8gb GTX260se video card 64bit W7.
and OMFG is it quick!

:yikes: cheesenrice!!!! i want one!

Hackstra
22nd October 2009, 08:09 PM
Hi guys,
I'm a student and I can get Windows 7 for dirt cheap, just wondering if any of you techy blokes can check this out for me?
http://www.microsoft.com/student/discounts/itsnotcheating/default.aspx
I believe it looks like a 'downloadable upgrade' but when u sign up and get to check out, it adds another $14 for a "Disk Kit". Would this be the full version or just the upgrade? Im running xp 32bit at the moment

poita
22nd October 2009, 08:15 PM
you cant upgrade from xp to 7

you have to do a clean install

carab
22nd October 2009, 08:28 PM
also for student discounts. I think its only US though but not sure
http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/us/software/windows-7.aspx

im an MSDNAA student so i get it free hehe :angel:

Hackstra
22nd October 2009, 08:34 PM
yeah i understand that but is the 'upgrade version' any different from the full version?

Hackstra
22nd October 2009, 08:35 PM
also for student discounts. I think its only US though but not sure
http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/us/software/windows-7.aspx

im an MSDNAA student so i get it free hehe :angel:

The link i put on the prev post is for aus students and you get it for $49.95, you just have to have an email with '.edu' in it

poita
22nd October 2009, 08:39 PM
they are identical program/features wise.

Calibrated
22nd October 2009, 08:58 PM
its not a run of teh mill GTX260
it was built by nvidia for HP

has 1.8gb dedcated ram, like i said not the avarage run of teh mill video card ;)
fair enough but is there any change to the core and memory clocks? if not, then there will hardly be any performance increase worth noting.

poita
22nd October 2009, 09:01 PM
about as much as i have looked into it tbh ash

i was too busy fapping over the machine lol

Calibrated
22nd October 2009, 09:03 PM
about as much as i have looked into it tbh ash

i was too busy fapping over the machine lol
lol. i must say, it is a very slick looking tower. im sure it will sell well based on its looks alone

oneightoo
23rd October 2009, 09:24 AM
yeah i want the tower.. looks shmick..

im still 12 months away before the missus will let me buy another pc lol

Kudrow
24th October 2009, 07:42 PM
You can look at this as Windows 7 Release, or Windows Vista SP3/4

Either way, this is worth having NOW - Even the first beta was better then the current VISTA with all patches and sevice packs.

I am the guy responsible for creating, supporting and upgrading our desktop environment (Over 1000 PC's). We never seriously considered implementing Vista.

WE are moving to Windows 7 x64 ASAP. (Ie, THIS YEAR)

Cheers

Hmm that sounds pretty "impressive", considering the place I work for has an entire building of staff that develop SOEs for the workstations. I think they have about 7000 workstations. So, if we had people as good as you, we would only need 7 people to maintain the entire lot, 1000 workstations maintained by each person. The global address book in Outlook for our IT department is about 5 pages long and would probably be one of the biggest private networks in the country.

There is more to just your desktop environment. From the people who work on the HAL to Policies to supporting the entire SOE. Then you have the server infrastructure (would would be broken down into about 20 different departments), the network infrastructure (again, another 20 departments), analysts, software developers, support engineers, design engineers, implementation, software infrastructure to maintain and monitor the entire network (again, another 20 deparrments within that).

Windows 7 x64 would be a bad move at such an early time in a business development, although its released, I seriously doubt applications would be compatible for it THIS YEAR as you have stated. In addition, do you have 1000 workstations that are 64-bit compatible and ready to be upgraded? Most of our workstations run 32-bit software, some servers run 64-bit OS.

mania
24th October 2009, 09:20 PM
Compatibility is > then Vista in all cases. And even Vista x64 is close enough to 100%, excluding drivers. I have no doubt that applications will be compatible with it this year :p.

Non device driver 32 bit software should always run fine on an x86-64 OS..

McTwistie
24th October 2009, 10:44 PM
Hmm that sounds pretty "impressive", considering the place I work for has an entire building of staff that develop SOEs for the workstations. I think they have about 7000 workstations. So, if we had people as good as you, we would only need 7 people to maintain the entire lot, 1000 workstations maintained by each person. The global address book in Outlook for our IT department is about 5 pages long and would probably be one of the biggest private networks in the country.

There is more to just your desktop environment. From the people who work on the HAL to Policies to supporting the entire SOE. Then you have the server infrastructure (would would be broken down into about 20 different departments), the network infrastructure (again, another 20 departments), analysts, software developers, support engineers, design engineers, implementation, software infrastructure to maintain and monitor the entire network (again, another 20 deparrments within that).

Windows 7 x64 would be a bad move at such an early time in a business development, although its released, I seriously doubt applications would be compatible for it THIS YEAR as you have stated. In addition, do you have 1000 workstations that are 64-bit compatible and ready to be upgraded? Most of our workstations run 32-bit software, some servers run 64-bit OS.

Mate, what I do for a living is usually taken care of by at least 4 teams of 4 people, if not a hell of a lot more. I am aware of this.

I built our XP SOE from the ground up. I set all the defaults. I created a SINGLE image that covers over 8 pc types and as many laptops and 2 different master configurations. (and a 2nd companies mostly Dumb Terminal build.) I built and implemented our Zenworks 10.2.1 desktop admin system (about 14 months) - with 1 other guy helping from time to time - he has brilliant specific knowledge - I have scope.

In 3 days, I created, scripted and implemented a system that links into the SOE and ZENWORKS to pre-install all a users software on a newly built machine by reading what AD groups they are in and calling the correct zenworks bundles.

I spent almost a year tranferring 300 applications, links, shortcuts from our old zen 2/3 system into our new one, then implemented it so smoothly that hardly anyone even noticed !! :/ They just saw a blue menu where there used to be a yellow one !

As part of the XP rollout I setup the default policies, and still admin them when required, server policies and other settings are shared in the other team. ON top of this, I do 8/10 updates and rollouts of any new Desktop Applications or updates- but I don't build servers or install the backend "Systems" on them, I just take care of the desktop clients. I also don't admin the anti-virues or intruder detection systems, or networking.

I get the feelilng that while I get paid a fair bit for what I do, maybe it's not nearly enough, but it's been a great company to work for.

Sorry about the rant, but the post got me going. I would love to see how other companies implement this stuff, but rarely get a chance to talk to other SOE people. Luckily we are a relatively new company (about 18 years), so we dont' have any mainframes or ancient programs. All our stuff is written in x86.


But for upgrading to windows 7 ?

Yes, nearly all of our computers are 64 bit with 2gb ram or more. Those that are not will be upgraded. Win7 is the same base engine as Vista. If it works in Vista, it works in Win7, and most software companies have already upgraded their software for this. It's always the few "OTHERS" that cause the pain, but we won't know for sure how bad this is until we push them and test - better to do it now.

I know all of our apps, and have a very good idea what will and won't go. Some will NOT - definately, but those ones are also mostly stand-alone non-integrated apps. The Win7 VM/TS system should run these without too much trouble. Also, a lot of our backend systems run via sharepoint - and while there are a couple that don't work perfectly under Ie7 or 8, there are only a couple - and yes they will be some trouble, but we might use our citrix system to cover these jobs.

Office 2003 to 2007 transitions are a real issue, but work has allocated resources to help upgrade users crappy spreadsheets. Also will take some time, and showing them what WIN 7 can do will help push the new development.

We can keep our windows 7 SOE and XP SOE side by side - though our first desktops will go out this year, I expect to finish the win7 rollout in about 2 years... possibly with some few leftovers. (same thing we did when we upgraded from 2k to xp)

It won't be easy, and it won't be quick. But we start now, and iron out the bugs as we go. It helps build pressure in the company to make the changes required too.


Damn what a rant....all done though.


ps. Why would anyone be stuffing around with the HAL ? How many of your pc's are older then 4 or more years? Do you use sysprep or a winbom based soe ? And one thing I have NOT done is update how we call the build... we still use floppy disks :yikes: (PXE coming soon!)

oneightoo
24th October 2009, 11:03 PM
so yeah.....

just installed W7 ultimate..

it's quick and i love it..

vista can lick balls..

Calibrated
25th October 2009, 12:57 AM
Mate, what I do for a living is usually taken care of by at least 4 teams of 4 people, if not a hell of a lot more. I am aware of this.

I built our XP SOE from the ground up. I set all the defaults. I created a SINGLE image that covers over 8 pc types and as many laptops and 2 different master configurations. (and a 2nd companies mostly Dumb Terminal build.) I built and implemented our Zenworks 10.2.1 desktop admin system (about 14 months) - with 1 other guy helping from time to time - he has brilliant specific knowledge - I have scope.

In 3 days, I created, scripted and implemented a system that links into the SOE and ZENWORKS to pre-install all a users software on a newly built machine by reading what AD groups they are in and calling the correct zenworks bundles.

I spent almost a year tranferring 300 applications, links, shortcuts from our old zen 2/3 system into our new one, then implemented it so smoothly that hardly anyone even noticed !! :/ They just saw a blue menu where there used to be a yellow one !

As part of the XP rollout I setup the default policies, and still admin them when required, server policies and other settings are shared in the other team. ON top of this, I do 8/10 updates and rollouts of any new Desktop Applications or updates- but I don't build servers or install the backend "Systems" on them, I just take care of the desktop clients. I also don't admin the anti-virues or intruder detection systems, or networking.

I get the feelilng that while I get paid a fair bit for what I do, maybe it's not nearly enough, but it's been a great company to work for.

Sorry about the rant, but the post got me going. I would love to see how other companies implement this stuff, but rarely get a chance to talk to other SOE people. Luckily we are a relatively new company (about 18 years), so we dont' have any mainframes or ancient programs. All our stuff is written in x86.


But for upgrading to windows 7 ?

Yes, nearly all of our computers are 64 bit with 2gb ram or more. Those that are not will be upgraded. Win7 is the same base engine as Vista. If it works in Vista, it works in Win7, and most software companies have already upgraded their software for this. It's always the few "OTHERS" that cause the pain, but we won't know for sure how bad this is until we push them and test - better to do it now.

I know all of our apps, and have a very good idea what will and won't go. Some will NOT - definately, but those ones are also mostly stand-alone non-integrated apps. The Win7 VM/TS system should run these without too much trouble. Also, a lot of our backend systems run via sharepoint - and while there are a couple that don't work perfectly under Ie7 or 8, there are only a couple - and yes they will be some trouble, but we might use our citrix system to cover these jobs.

Office 2003 to 2007 transitions are a real issue, but work has allocated resources to help upgrade users crappy spreadsheets. Also will take some time, and showing them what WIN 7 can do will help push the new development.

We can keep our windows 7 SOE and XP SOE side by side - though our first desktops will go out this year, I expect to finish the win7 rollout in about 2 years... possibly with some few leftovers. (same thing we did when we upgraded from 2k to xp)

It won't be easy, and it won't be quick. But we start now, and iron out the bugs as we go. It helps build pressure in the company to make the changes required too.


Damn what a rant....all done though.


ps. Why would anyone be stuffing around with the HAL ? How many of your pc's are older then 4 or more years? Do you use sysprep or a winbom based soe ? And one thing I have NOT done is update how we call the build... we still use floppy disks :yikes: (PXE coming soon!)
Zenworks is a steaming inconsistent pile of shit. SCCM is where its at. if you have that much pull in the IT infrastructure, why not piss novell off to hell entirely. i know i would. Novell = Plague

McTwistie
25th October 2009, 06:41 AM
LOL....

nuff said.

poita
25th October 2009, 08:45 AM
so yeah.....

just installed W7 ultimate..

it's quick and i love it..

vista can lick balls..

nice work mate, you will never look back :D

its a fantastic OS.

a good short cut to know too mate, once you have 'pinned' your programs to the taksbar, press windows key + number. eg windows key + 4 will open the 4th program along that you have pinned.

also right click on the pinned progra will bring up a list of commonly opened files. with IE it will show a list of commonly used websites. which you can also pin to the list ;)

Calibrated
25th October 2009, 08:50 AM
LOL....

nuff said.
Give me ONE good reason to have a Novell-Windows Environment. :rolleyes:

poita
25th October 2009, 08:59 AM
give me one good reason to not send you both on a holiday.

take you penis measuring contest elsewhere

Calibrated
25th October 2009, 09:12 AM
because i own a cali with a sunroof :D

gmonkey
25th October 2009, 01:53 PM
"Highway to the.. DANGER ZONE! DANGER ZONE!" :p

USC
25th October 2009, 04:17 PM
How much RAM would Windows 7 need??

chrissn89
25th October 2009, 04:24 PM
I installed Win7 Home Premium yesterday, i did a full/clean installation and it took about 15-20mins all up. Runs alot nicer than Vista on my PC. My PC isnt anything special. Its only a P4 3hgz HT, 2GB ram, Nvidia 9400GT 512mb, 120gb HDD and a 1TB external. Win7 runs perfectly on it. Programs i mainly use are Firefox, Windows Media player and Photoshop CS3.

chrissn89
25th October 2009, 04:27 PM
How much RAM would Windows 7 need??
Pretty sure 1GB is the minimum.

USC
25th October 2009, 05:35 PM
ok cool - did you buy retail or OEM version?

Calibrated
25th October 2009, 06:14 PM
ok cool - did you buy retail or OEM version?
they are identical packages.

except OEM is ONLY for sale with a NEW system.

USC
25th October 2009, 06:22 PM
they are identical packages.

except OEM is ONLY for sale with a NEW system.

yep..I know that :)

I also know you can buy OEM on its own at some places...why bother with retail;)

ROCCO
25th October 2009, 07:20 PM
yep..I know that :)

I also know you can buy OEM on its own at some places...why bother with retail;)


Correct I bought my copy from Scorptec in Rowville. I spoke to a bloke named Jimmy buy from him often. They have no probs selling OEM without a new system

Calibrated
25th October 2009, 07:42 PM
yep..I know that :)

I also know you can buy OEM on its own at some places...why bother with retail;)


Correct I bought my copy from Scorptec in Rowville. I spoke to a bloke named Jimmy buy from him often. They have no probs selling OEM without a new system
yep its possible, there are ways of getting around it the rules set by MS. im just saying, from a business point of view, thats not how it is supposed to be done.

as a 'distributor' your can sell OEM to a 'system builder'.

poita
25th October 2009, 08:01 PM
How much RAM would Windows 7 need??

have had it running on a machine with 256mb ;)

1gb min, 2gb better, 4gb reccomended

McTwistie
25th October 2009, 08:12 PM
I loaded it onto my dad's pc. A old western 2ghz single core, 1gb ram and 20g ide hdd.

I won't say it was fast, but it ran Better then xp (Abliet a pretty old Install) - but it was very Smooth.

On top of that, my 60+ yr old parents both use it, and have no issues with the interface at all. It's great for non-pc people.

USC
25th October 2009, 11:44 PM
great - how does it compare to XP Pro? I cant stand Vista with all its useless messages and warnings...hopefully 7 is better.

oneightoo
26th October 2009, 07:40 AM
my pc has 2gb ram and i runs fast.. it rates my machine at a 5.9, which isnt bad i think..

AKAIK, the 32bit system is fine with 2gb and you only need the 64bit if you want to make use of more than 4gb..

is that right?

poita
26th October 2009, 09:22 AM
my pc has 2gb ram and i runs fast.. it rates my machine at a 5.9, which isnt bad i think..

AKAIK, the 32bit system is fine with 2gb and you only need the 64bit if you want to make use of more than 4gb..

is that right?

correct my little shire buddy.

32bit will only read 3.3gb~ of ram

Neeko
26th October 2009, 12:07 PM
Hey ash let me know when u get another copy in ;)

Calibrated
27th October 2009, 08:55 AM
Hey ash let me know when u get another copy in ;)
i'll be picking up stock today. are you going to make the long trip up, or do you want it posted?

Neeko
27th October 2009, 08:56 AM
i'll be picking up stock today. are you going to make the long trip up, or do you want it posted?
definitely post it, have to make some money first though :p

incredibly dead week :(

Calibrated
27th October 2009, 09:32 AM
definitely post it, have to make some money first though :p

incredibly dead week :(
no problem. let me know when you're ready.

dieselhead
27th October 2009, 01:19 PM
Can I install the Home Premium Family pack on brand new computers only/older with previous license? I've got an older PC running a very cheap version of XP ;) and I'm in the process of purchasing bits and pieces for an i7 system. The third PC (the pack allows upgrading 3 systems) would be my son's netbook.
So, would be a good idea to get the pack or I need previous Windows licenses to be able to use the Family Pack?

poita
27th October 2009, 07:30 PM
the Home Premium Family Pack is only available in the US afaik.

its not even listed on our supplier listing here, unless anyone can confirm otherwise?

dieselhead
27th October 2009, 08:11 PM
I'm afraid you're right... I clicked on the get it now link from the Aussie Microsoft website and it sent me to the US store. Anyway, would be illegal to buy it from there and use it? I mean, $149 US at the current rate is a bargain, making it about A$55/license :D

poita
27th October 2009, 08:47 PM
afaik it is yes, but read the t&c's of it all to make sure you can use it here

you may have registration problems and also update/support problems

gman
28th October 2009, 11:45 AM
Legally they, in theory, shouldn't be able to stop you. If they do then you could report them to the ACCC as its price fixing/anti-competitive behaviour and also breaches the terms of the FTA.

Be careful though as when you install it may fall over when it figures out where you're based...

poita
28th October 2009, 01:26 PM
had a play with one of the new hp i7 laptops

very very quick

oneightoo
28th October 2009, 01:48 PM
found a cool little feature last night..

when you leave your pc for a while it shut's down.. then you just turn it back on and it's already loaded, dont need to shut down anymore..

never used vista on my pc, last os was xp, so this may not be new to you guys, but i reckon it's neat..

poita
28th October 2009, 01:50 PM
hibernation mode my friend ;)

carab
28th October 2009, 01:53 PM
found a cool little feature last night..

when you leave your pc for a while it shut's down.. then you just turn it back on and it's already loaded, dont need to shut down anymore..

never used vista on my pc, last os was xp, so this may not be new to you guys, but i reckon it's neat..

yup, goes into hybrid sleep which is some weird moosh between what was XP's hibernate and standby. Id still reccomend shutting down properly every week or so else you start getting weird problems... its still windows after all :p

oneightoo
28th October 2009, 01:53 PM
hibernation mode my friend ;)

yeah i know that part, what i like is that i dont have to ask the pc to do it..

xp just sat there, with an annoying xp sign on the screen, taunting me..

DirtyHarry
28th October 2009, 01:53 PM
ahhh could it be like "hibernation" which has been around for yonkers?

BEK-46P
30th October 2009, 09:17 PM
Windows 7 has some pretty trippy backgrounds. Seems like Microsoft downed some acid or something.

They look awesome!

ROCCO
31st October 2009, 08:19 PM
LMAO...i can see it now...

people are asking for nicer backgrounds....designers here is your supply of acid...take one and pass it on...then get cracking!

PO15KA
2nd November 2009, 05:15 PM
whats involved in purchasing a full OEM version of WIN7 (not upgrade) ?

do i have to purchase a new PC?

dieselhead
2nd November 2009, 06:59 PM
yes, you need to purchase a CPU+MOBO or CPU+HDD or MOBO +HDD. Some retailers want you to purchase CPU+MOBO+HDD on the same invoice to qualify for an OEM Windows kit. A bit of a gray area these bloody rules...

Calibrated
2nd November 2009, 09:04 PM
yes, you need to purchase a CPU+MOBO or CPU+HDD or MOBO +HDD. Some retailers want you to purchase CPU+MOBO+HDD on the same invoice to qualify for an OEM Windows kit. A bit of a gray area these bloody rules...
not really a grey area

according to microsoft


End User Software License Terms The primary reason for the above licensing rule is due to the End User Software License Terms and the support of the software covered by those End User Software License Terms:


The End User Software License Terms are a set of usage rights granted to the end user by the PC manufacturer. It relates to rights for that software only as installed on that particular PC.
The system builder is required to support the software on that individual PC. However, Microsoft understands that end users, over time, upgrade their PCs with different components. Therefore, one base component needs to be identified that, as long as it is "left standing," defines the original PC. The motherboard is the logical choice.
The motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC. When the motherboard is replaced—for reasons other than a defect—a new PC is essentially created. The original system builder did not manufacture this PC and, therefore, cannot be expected to support it.

USC
3rd November 2009, 11:13 PM
whats involved in purchasing a full OEM version of WIN7 (not upgrade) ?

do i have to purchase a new PC?

depending where you buy a copy, you certainly dont need to buy any hardware:D

McTwistie
4th November 2009, 10:27 AM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/10/30/

Windows 7 in a nutshell

hazrd
5th November 2009, 05:59 PM
well i finally got hold of a retail version of 7

just waiting for it to install on a nice fresh seagate hdd

topgear
7th November 2009, 12:19 PM
Taking advantage of my Uni faculty being in the MSDNAA... Also took advantage at the fact that Monash University gives you two email addresses one with .edu and the other with .edu.au LOL so they both work.

= 3 copies for me :D

Except I have an all-Apple household so I only really need 1 copy

poita
7th November 2009, 12:29 PM
nice work, i cant get any of the those versions :(

i need 5 copies to change my machines over lol

KingOfAstras
7th November 2009, 02:03 PM
Installed Windows 7 Ultimate x64 the other night... Bloody beautiful :-) Even better because it was free! A bit step up from Vista, utilises my video card the way it should and whatever program I use seems to just glide. Booting up in comparison to Vista has a much better improvement than I thought :-)

Installed it on an old P4 with 512mb RAM, and still runs as fast as XP, with the Aero enabled too! It's a great piece of work.

USC
8th November 2009, 06:29 PM
Taking advantage of my Uni faculty being in the MSDNAA... Also took advantage at the fact that Monash University gives you two email addresses one with .edu and the other with .edu.au LOL so they both work.

= 3 copies for me :D

Except I have an all-Apple household so I only really need 1 copy

but u r only eligible for home premium upgrade..isnt that right??

ASTRAY
20th November 2009, 03:15 PM
got my windows7 cd today.
i really want to change from 32bit to 64bit, but dont want to lose my gb upon gb of um... :ihih: educational material. (almost 100gb)
is the performance increase really worth changing to 64bit?

delemonte
20th November 2009, 03:33 PM
Why should you need to lose anything at all?

ASTRAY
20th November 2009, 05:43 PM
Why should you need to lose anything at all?
ive sorted it now, saved what i want to keep and delete the rest.
if your pc is run via 32bit os, and you want to change to 64bit, you need to do a clean install

melave
20th November 2009, 06:23 PM
i got windows 7 upgrade with my new lappy.It's good and all but i think i got so burnt with vista that i hardly use it. I dual boot with ubuntu (9.04) and always use that rather than 7 :)

ASTRAY
20th November 2009, 06:57 PM
well im about to do a clean install and up my pc to 64bit.
ive done a fair bit of research, link below being best info i could find.
wish me luck and ill see you all on the otherside :)

ASTRAY
21st November 2009, 03:01 PM
clean install completed, but didnt ask me if i wanted 32bit or 64bit, my lappy is able to have 64bit, how can i get 64bit installed?

delemonte
21st November 2009, 07:25 PM
The 32-bit and 64-bit versions are a completely different set of installation files. Unless you've got a custom compilation, you'll only have one (either 32-bit or 64-bit) so you'll need to get the 64-bit version.

PS. Make sure you have 64-bit drivers ready

ASTRAY
21st November 2009, 09:36 PM
The 32-bit and 64-bit versions are a completely different set of installation files. Unless you've got a custom compilation, you'll only have one (either 32-bit or 64-bit) so you'll need to get the 64-bit version.

PS. Make sure you have 64-bit drivers ready
?
my win7 cd has both 32 and 64 bit on it. and the key is for 32 and 64 bit.

delemonte
21st November 2009, 10:35 PM
Where'd you get it from? Is it a RC copy or a full version?

KingOfAstras
21st November 2009, 10:38 PM
?
my win7 cd has both 32 and 64 bit on it. and the key is for 32 and 64 bit.

My one has Windows 32 and 64 bit. No CD Key required ;-)

ASTRAY
21st November 2009, 10:44 PM
Where'd you get it from? Is it a RC copy or a full version?
got it via offer when i bought my vista lappy, just had to pay post.

delemonte
21st November 2009, 11:08 PM
Nice ;)

Well unless it came with two separate DVDs (the Retail version didn't, it just came on a single 'combo' DVD I believe) then it should ask you when installing - during a clean install, that is.

Unfortunately as I don't have anything but RC media, I can't tell you from experience :(

ASTRAY
22nd November 2009, 04:44 AM
Nice ;)

Well unless it came with two separate DVDs (the Retail version didn't, it just came on a single 'combo' DVD I believe) then it should ask you when installing - during a clean install, that is.

Unfortunately as I don't have anything but RC media, I can't tell you from experience :(
no problem , thankyou for you help anyway mate

poita
22nd November 2009, 07:55 PM
?
my win7 cd has both 32 and 64 bit on it. and the key is for 32 and 64 bit.

you bought a toshiba didnt ya Jay?

heres what you have too, yes it a fuk around, but this is the way to get win7 64.

Do a system restore on it, takin it back to vista.
this will then give you the option to choose 32 or 64 bit.

the win7 disc you received will only upgrade your system to the type of OS that is existing on it, ie 32 or 64 bit.

any probs mate gimme a call

ASTRAY
22nd November 2009, 09:08 PM
you bought a toshiba didnt ya Jay?

heres what you have too, yes it a fuk around, but this is the way to get win7 64.

Do a system restore on it, takin it back to vista.
this will then give you the option to choose 32 or 64 bit.

the win7 disc you received will only upgrade your system to the type of OS that is existing on it, ie 32 or 64 bit.

any probs mate gimme a call
didnt see your post before i got it to work mate,
but what i did is...
tried to clean install again, got to installing point and realised it wasnt going to do it for me, so i cancelled installation.
rebooted pc and all of a sudden the choice of 32 and 64 flashed up, hehe!
i now have 32 and 64 bit internet explorers...

3213

poita
22nd November 2009, 09:19 PM
yer you will, with 7 what it does is most programs will run in 32 bit mode

then the ones that are 64 bit compatible will run in 64 bit mode.

any problems with drivers or bit yet mate?

ASTRAY
22nd November 2009, 09:30 PM
yer you will, with 7 what it does is most programs will run in 32 bit mode

then the ones that are 64 bit compatible will run in 64 bit mode.

any problems with drivers or bit yet mate?
yes, cant seem to get my elm327 to work (drivers to install), and need it to test the astra before i go for my services at xmas, so holden dont try to rip me.
youtube doesnt work with 64bit, tells me i need latest flash, but flash doesnt like 64bit.
i expected driver problems with 64bit cos thats what everyone has been raving about in 32 vs 64 discussions all over the net, but most discussions i found were from 06-07 so im assuming most problems will be ironed out by now.
i havent installed many of my programs yet so i may find more in the next few days/weeks.

poita
22nd November 2009, 09:34 PM
use this mate

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

basically gives you xp inside windows 7

ASTRAY
22nd November 2009, 09:36 PM
use this mate

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

basically gives you xp inside windows 7
only have home premium mate :(

poita
22nd November 2009, 09:39 PM
ah shit thats right, sorry mate.

gimme a sec

poita
22nd November 2009, 09:42 PM
use this, you have to have your own copy of windows xp though mate

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

ASTRAY
22nd November 2009, 10:02 PM
use this, you have to have your own copy of windows xp though mate

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
got xp on my desktop pc, (old pc) but its all inside the pc, eg no cd.
has a hidden little button underneath that you hold in and the pc does its own clean install.....

ASTRAY
22nd November 2009, 10:08 PM
while on the topic of my old pc, i want to do a clean install on it, i have moved all my "want to keep" stuff onto the 500gb drive i installed earlier this yr.
pc still has the original 80gb drive in it, partioned from factory to 2x40gb.
one of them 40gb has the os etc on it as from factory.
the 500gb is just used as a storage drive, i manually move things over to there when my 40s start getting full.

if i push that button and do a clean install, will it wipe my 500gb too?

poita
22nd November 2009, 10:12 PM
just unplug it shay :p

this 'push button clean install' scares me honestly

never seen anything with that on it before

ASTRAY
22nd November 2009, 10:30 PM
just unplug it shay :p

this 'push button clean install' scares me honestly

never seen anything with that on it before
shay? lol
yeah was thinking just unplug but didnt know if disrupting power to it would wipe it or worse.

old pc is a veriton 7600 and the clean install feature is called "one touch recovery"
used it plenty of times.
just wipes everything and returns pc to "new" state.

ASTRAY
22nd November 2009, 10:34 PM
different pc, but same idea....


The Acer Veriton 7600 GT offers a powerful business tool in a mini-tower design. With an Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz processor, 512MB RAM and a 80 GB hard drive, the Veriton is prepared to handle the most complex and hardware demanding applications with ease. 8 USB ports with USBLock allow full freedom in using peripherals while still keeping your system safe. Performance is optimized by minimizing maintenance time. Each system comes with a One-touch recovery for easy return of the PC to its original configuration. The Veriton 7600GT is a perfect solution thanks to its high technology and friendly user interface.

found here
http://www.superwarehouse.com/Acer_Veriton_7600GT_3001/V7600GT-U-P3001/p/428141

poita
22nd November 2009, 10:35 PM
was sending a msg to shay at the same time lol

nah unpluggin it wont wipe it

mine gets moved around heaps all the time

ASTRAY
22nd November 2009, 10:38 PM
was sending a msg to shay at the same time lol

nah unpluggin it wont wipe it

mine gets moved around heaps all the time
cheers for the help then mate. will do it tomoz arvo.

Neeko
24th November 2009, 07:17 PM
loving windows 7
cant believe how much faster my computer is!!

ASTRAY
24th November 2009, 11:32 PM
loving windows 7
cant believe how much faster my computer is!!
+1, start up is lightning fast compared to vista

Neeko
25th November 2009, 08:45 AM
+1, start up is lightning fast compared to vista

incredibly fast start up.

Brazza
27th November 2009, 10:13 AM
Love windows 7, it looks nice and it goes pretty well but the one thing that annoys me is that I can't simply pin the Documents, Computer or any other folders to the taskbar. No windows, if I wanted them on the windows explorer jump list then I'd friggen ask for it!!!

I think I've found a work around for it but it's annoying that they didn't think that would be counter-intuitive considering it worked well in the last 2 versions of windows and even if that wasn't the case, why not just give the option to have it either way and cater to everyone.

Overall, though, it's not bad.

KingOfAstras
27th November 2009, 04:53 PM
Do you mean you've tried the process - Right Click on the taskbar, go taskbar, new toolbar, and select my documents?


Love windows 7, it looks nice and it goes pretty well but the one thing that annoys me is that I can't simply pin the Documents, Computer or any other folders to the taskbar. No windows, if I wanted them on the windows explorer jump list then I'd friggen ask for it!!!

I think I've found a work around for it but it's annoying that they didn't think that would be counter-intuitive considering it worked well in the last 2 versions of windows and even if that wasn't the case, why not just give the option to have it either way and cater to everyone.

Overall, though, it's not bad.

Nurb608
27th November 2009, 05:13 PM
Ash,

How much to upgrade home premium to something that will let me install virtual pc on the missus new laptop?

She's going to be working from home and whilst I have it on mine, need to get it on hers so we can set up citrix remote login.

poita
27th November 2009, 06:23 PM
you will need professional or ultimate for virtual pc

Brazza
27th November 2009, 11:18 PM
Do you mean you've tried the process - Right Click on the taskbar, go taskbar, new toolbar, and select my documents?
that sort of works but I'd rather have it in the main list of icons just because I'm pedantic :rolleyes:. thanks anyway.

Calibrated
28th November 2009, 08:28 AM
Ash,

How much to upgrade home premium to something that will let me install virtual pc on the missus new laptop?

She's going to be working from home and whilst I have it on mine, need to get it on hers so we can set up citrix remote login.


you will need professional or ultimate for virtual pc
as poita mentioned, you would need professional or ultimate.

will pm you price on both editions

Vectracious
16th December 2009, 08:27 AM
Does anyone know how to get rid of the annoying beep each time you click on something in IE???

oneightoo
16th December 2009, 08:53 AM
yeah, switch to firefox :p

Neeko
16th December 2009, 09:15 AM
yeah, switch to firefox :p

was thinking the EXACT same!

hadukn88
16th December 2009, 09:52 AM
ive sorted it now, saved what i want to keep and delete the rest.
if your pc is run via 32bit os, and you want to change to 64bit, you need to do a clean install

how much did you end up paying for your windows 7? Because i bought my windows 7 premium for 63 (incl CD) =D

Check out this site called win741, it's a site for students to buy windows at student prices, all you need is to get yours (Or your mate's ;) ) email address, register it, then you get the product key online, and CD fed ex to ya =D

goof
16th December 2009, 03:30 PM
Does anyone know how to get rid of the annoying beep each time you click on something in IE???

I can't remember exactly the wording in Win7, but you have to go to the Control Panel, find 'Sounds' and in there there's something about a system sound when 'clicking a link' or 'navigation started' or something like that.

If you can't find it I can boot up a windows PC and get the exact wording for you.

(I got Win7 Pro free with a HP notebook, but I boot it to Linux/Ubuntu most of the time. As far as windows goes, 7 is pretty good IMHO.)

ASTRAY
16th December 2009, 04:35 PM
how much did you end up paying for your windows 7? Because i bought my windows 7 premium for 63 (incl CD) =D

Check out this site called win741, it's a site for students to buy windows at student prices, all you need is to get yours (Or your mate's ;) ) email address, register it, then you get the product key online, and CD fed ex to ya =D
just paid $25 for post. i bought a new vista laptop in the promotion period, so i ony had to prove id bought the lappy, and pay post.

Vectracious
16th December 2009, 06:07 PM
I can't remember exactly the wording in Win7, but you have to go to the Control Panel, find 'Sounds' and in there there's something about a system sound when 'clicking a link' or 'navigation started' or something like that.

If you can't find it I can boot up a windows PC and get the exact wording for you.

(I got Win7 Pro free with a HP notebook, but I boot it to Linux/Ubuntu most of the time. As far as windows goes, 7 is pretty good IMHO.)


Thanks goff - found it :)