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USC

6th October 2009, 10:22 PM

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/toyota-ft-86-2009-10-06

" Last year, we reported that Toyota (http://www.topgear.com/uk/tags/Toyota) and Subaru (http://www.topgear.com/uk/tags/Subaru) were collaborating to develop a lightweight, rear-wheel-drive coupe (http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/Toyota-Subaru). We were excited.

And now our excitement has reached the heady level of In A Bit of A Tizz, because here it is: the Toyota FT-86, set to debut at the Tokyo motor show (http://www.topgear.com/uk/tags/Tokyo-Motor-Show-2009) later this month.

The FT-86 is labelled a concept, but is expected to reach the road in 2011 alongside a Subaru-badged version.

It's powered by Subaru's 2.0-litre boxer engine, which puts out 146bhp in current production form but should develop slightly more in future iterations.

As we're well aware, the four-pot can be turbocharged to produce monstrous power outputs, but that would also put the price up: Toyota and Subaru are aiming to keep the cost as low as possible to attract younger drivers to the brand. The coupes should weigh in well under £20,000 when they go on sale in the UK.

The FT-86 has a 2+2 seating configuration and measures 416cm in length, just a fraction longer than the Audi TT (http://www.topgear.com/uk/audi/tt-coupe) and around 18cm shorter than the Lotus Evora (http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/26/lotus-evora/).

We'll find out much more about the FT-86 - and, perhaps, its Subaru counterpart - in Tokyo in a couple of weeks' time. "

I LOVE IT!:D ...and she`s rear wheel drive too!

gmonkey

6th October 2009, 10:25 PM

that should be the new supra its hot!!!! except the wheels are a bit too wacky for me

hazrd

6th October 2009, 10:26 PM

not bad...

need to see more pics to be set on it though!

wait:
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/toyota-ft86-concept-02.jpg

very nice :D

Vectracious

6th October 2009, 10:26 PM

YAY!!! a new Hachiroku!! :D

poita

6th October 2009, 10:28 PM

WOW that thing is hot

very nice indeed.

cant wait to see if they bring out a turbo charged version

and i like the wheels, they are awesome

gmonkey

6th October 2009, 10:32 PM

yeh 146bhp isnt enough unless its a lightweight but it dont look like it will be :p, needs id say 205kw ;)

USC

6th October 2009, 10:35 PM

I would be happy with 200KW:D + rear wheel drive + Boxer Engine....SWEET!!

Love the side mirrors, the rear, the front head lights, the wheels!! A++ :cornut:

tomtom

6th October 2009, 10:37 PM

so is subaru going to release... the same car but with diff badges or will the body be different and the internals be the same?

I assume the later.

2011... so we'll get it like 2019. I look forward to it.

mmahle

6th October 2009, 10:37 PM

I want one!!

gmonkey

6th October 2009, 10:38 PM

http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819192+pheader/toyota-ft-86-concept-front-three-quarter.jpghttp://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819063+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-grille.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/25381628+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-side-view.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819060+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-driver-side-view.jpghttp://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819204+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-rear-view.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819066+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-interior.jpghttp://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819195+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-gear-shift.jpg

gmonkey

6th October 2009, 10:41 PM

http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819201+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-passenger-seat.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819207+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-rim.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/25381625+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-side-dash.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819213+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-steering-wheel.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/25381631+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-steering-wheel-and-gauges.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/25381619+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-pedals.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/tokyo/2009/112_0910_toyota_ft_86_concept/30819189+w750+st0/toyota-ft-86-concept-door.jpg

BEK-46P

6th October 2009, 10:43 PM

Phwoooaaaahhhh!

gmonkey

6th October 2009, 10:43 PM

I love it! love that steering wheel, every drive would make u feel like a racer :p

poita

6th October 2009, 10:46 PM

as 'futuristic' as it is, its very now.

im impressed by this thing tonnes.

interior is the icing on the cake

gmonkey

6th October 2009, 10:50 PM

im still trying to work out wats with the colour card in one of the photos.... can u change the colour of the background on the clocks to any of those colours? if u can awesome!!!

adam_92

6th October 2009, 10:53 PM

WOW! the front end kinda looks lyk a 350z/370z with a bit of s2000?

gmonkey

6th October 2009, 10:55 PM

reminds me of their FT-HS (hybrid supra with 400kw or something crazy like that) that was meant to come out and be built 2 years ago... never happened :(

http://www.pistonheads.com/pics/news/20159/tn_Supra3-L.jpg
http://www.evo.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_425/car_photo_212724_25.jpg

this is much nicer but!

rjastra

6th October 2009, 11:14 PM

Anyone notice the see through A pillars?

I assume the concept car is 90% of what the production car will look like.

gmonkey

6th October 2009, 11:17 PM

yeh id hate to replace that glass! :p

USC

6th October 2009, 11:24 PM

yeh id hate to replace that glass! :p

+1

Just noticed myself! Would be a pain to replace!! I have a feeling its part of the windscreen (which would make it easier)..like the sides curve a bit and they have black out to make it look like an A-Pillar.

gmonkey

6th October 2009, 11:32 PM

yeh ur right its one single bit.. see pic of passengers seat, can see it there, its complete wrap around.. pretty sexy!

Shay

7th October 2009, 02:41 AM

lollollol, same power as a stock veccy b 2.2, and i doubt it would be much lighter... and prob have more tranny losses too...

really cant say im a fan tho.
give me a smooth aston over this hotwheels car anyday...

gmonkey

7th October 2009, 02:44 AM

but RWD :p and probs get a better torque delivery and VVT and probs better rev range and better weight distrubution :p

itll never be just 146bhp but... 146kw maybe.. lol its just too small for a car of that "calibre"

Wraith

7th October 2009, 10:18 AM

That's HOT !!!

You can actually see its origins from the defunct FT-HS concept...what a shame Toyota pulled the pin on that one, although if this vehicle makes it to production and looks like that, it'll be hit IMO :)

I also like the new Honda CRZ hybrid, which will be on sale in Japan by Feb. next year and maybe landing in Aust. showrooms later in 2010...lots of new choices coming over the next 6-18 months :)

http://www.greencarreports.com/blog/1036026_preview-2011-honda-cr-z-hybrid-two-seat-sports-coupe

btm

7th October 2009, 11:17 AM

i wouldnt say no

mania

7th October 2009, 12:59 PM

I think I like it. Unsure if I like the interior or not though :p ... not expecting that much white to be in the production model.

oneightoo

7th October 2009, 02:58 PM

love it..

looks like a new "supra"

gmonkey

7th October 2009, 05:53 PM

Hm on second thoughts bit small and under powered for supra name.. Maybe celica? Or mr2 if ends up being mr engine

USC

7th October 2009, 07:49 PM

yeah..exactly..the new supra (if ever comes out) will match or beat the new R35 GTR I reckon. This is like a Mazda MX5.

xplosv57

7th October 2009, 08:12 PM

YAY!!! a new Hachiroku!! :D

This is no way close to being as cool as a Hachiroku, personally don't like the concept, but would be cool if they made another lightweight RWD hatch, need something new to transport tofu!! :p

hazrd

7th October 2009, 10:15 PM

LOL initial D :D

Wraith

8th October 2009, 08:11 AM

LOL initial D :D

I was a huge fan of Initial D :o used to stay up late just to watch it when it was 1st released, loved it...:)

hazrd

8th October 2009, 01:01 PM

ive got a mate with the entire series :D

im starting to get them all so i can watch them again myself!

USC

8th October 2009, 01:18 PM

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/toyota-ft-86-gt5-2009-10-06

"Just yesterday we showed you the FT-86 concept (http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/toyota-ft-86-2009-10-06), Toyota (http://www.topgear.com/uk/tags/Toyota)'s shiny new rear-wheel-drive coupe developed in conjuction with Subaru (http://www.topgear.com/uk/tags/Subaru), and today Polyphony has released a two-minute video of the FT-86 thrashing around the world of Gran Turismo 5 (http://www.topgear.com/uk/tags/gran-turismo-5).

The video confirms that the 2+2 coupe (http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/toyota-ft-86) will be powered by Subaru's C-4S boxer four engine, and shows the FT-86 doing battle around Tsukuba with its spiritual predecessor, the original Toyota AE86 Corolla.http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/toyota-ft-86-gt5-2009-10-06"

The FT-86 will be in Grand Tourismo 5 guys!!!!!!!!!:D

Vectracious

8th October 2009, 02:15 PM

This is no way close to being as cool as a Hachiroku, personally don't like the concept, but would be cool if they made another lightweight RWD hatch, need something new to transport tofu!! :p

Yeah I know, Toyota is prob trying to cash in on the cred the numbers 86 have.

Still, would be interesting to see one of these in white with a black bonnet - maybe some of our Photochoppers can do it ;)

glider

8th October 2009, 03:25 PM

correct me if im wrong, but don't subaru advertise the fact that awd is standard across their range? if so, why are they going to have their own version of this rwd car?

gmonkey

8th October 2009, 03:51 PM

They will probe have an awd version instead leaving rwd to toyota. Ft86 sti anyone? Maybe twin turbo 2ltr boxer + awd yummy

chrissn89

8th October 2009, 04:16 PM

Yeah I know, Toyota is prob trying to cash in on the cred the numbers 86 have.

Still, would be interesting to see one of these in white with a black bonnet - maybe some of our Photochoppers can do it ;)
Here's my 2 minute try. Note white and black is a very hard colour to replace with. The silver was the closest i could get it, within the 2minutes:::

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm213/chrissn89/Toyota-FT-86-Concept-9.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm213/chrissn89/toyota-ft-86-concept-grilleeditt222.jpg

GreyRex

8th October 2009, 04:19 PM

Not bad :)

I'm liking this for some reason

Wraith

8th October 2009, 04:56 PM

I think we're all liking it... :) ^^^^

Now lets just hope this and others similar become reality and that they make it here to Aust. showrooms...

Vectracious

8th October 2009, 06:52 PM

correct me if im wrong, but don't subaru advertise the fact that awd is standard across their range? if so, why are they going to have their own version of this rwd car?

Subaru Australia advertise this fact - not Subaru in other countries eg Japan

blueraven

8th October 2009, 07:31 PM

Subaru will be doing 2 versions apparently, both awd, and naturally a turbo ;)

now wether or not its coming to australia.... :(

GreyRex

9th October 2009, 08:46 AM

Subaru will be doing 2 versions apparently, both awd, and naturally a turbo ;)

now wether or not its coming to australia.... :(

Either way Subaru's version may be some time off

Just how cash strapped is this company?

http://www.leftlanenews.com/sketches-of-subarus-ft-86-surface-on-the-web.html

Wraith

9th October 2009, 09:59 AM

Subaru will be doing 2 versions apparently, both awd, and naturally a turbo ;)

now wether or not its coming to australia.... :(

Hey there BR how's it going :cornut:

Hopefully we'll see vehicles like this in Aust. as there's nothing to choose from in the current and upcoming GMH offerings...

rjastra

9th October 2009, 10:40 AM

I thought the Subaru version would be released first (2010) and the Toyota version sometime in 2011.

I think Hyundai may beat them to the market in Australia with the genesis coupe. 3.8V6 or 2L turbo.

USC

9th October 2009, 11:30 AM

poita

9th October 2009, 11:41 AM

Hyundai for sure, V8 rwd ftw!!

USC

9th October 2009, 12:17 PM

Hyundai for sure, V8 rwd ftw!!

yep..I would get Hyundai too. cheaper, better built, more reliable, probably more economical, cheaper to service, a better resale value..well a quality product..what more do you want!! Hyundai all the way!

Wraith

9th October 2009, 12:34 PM

^^^^ Hyundai coupe is a V6 not V8 guys...

I posted up a comparo of it against the new MPS3 in the MPS3 thread - the Hyundai is a bit of a beast in terms of performance, that's for sure...

In my view however I think this new Totota will be the much nicer looking vehicle though :)

USC

9th October 2009, 02:53 PM

In my view however I think this new Totota will be the much nicer looking vehicle though :)

+1...I was taking the piss in my previous post:p

gmonkey

9th October 2009, 02:57 PM

haha i was wondering what you were talking about with the hyundia, i started to go uh ohs here comes another MPS3 thread ahahah.. but yeh i like both the toyota and the hyundia and the subaru, if i was to buy any one of them.. itd be the toyota ( i dont like awd, its a buzz kill imo) hyundia genisis would be a good rental car dont think i could live with it everyday...

leo_kwc

9th October 2009, 05:07 PM

nice looking car, love it
but....will Subaru sell it too? i mean, like early stage toyota and lexus, either of them would make a more powerful version(may be turbocharged AWD?)

gmonkey

9th October 2009, 08:35 PM

i just cant see a toyota using a boxer engine... im imagining if anything if they wont have a boxer then maybe the toyota versions powerful version will be the v6 from the aurion maybe? maybe a TRD spec with a supercharger and will be RWD for the v6 norm and maybe 4wd for the supercharger one.. possibly.... subaru will use their boxer engine and will more than likely have to have a STi version..

Vectracious

10th October 2009, 07:53 AM

gmonkey

10th October 2009, 02:40 PM

im crazy and i preffer inline 4s myself :rolleyes:

Vectracious

10th October 2009, 06:53 PM

im crazy and i preffer inline 4s myself :rolleyes:

just have to be different dont you :p :D

USC

10th October 2009, 08:58 PM

Changing topic...but I read BMW is developing inline 3 - 1.5L Turbo engines capable of 150KW:eek: for the new series below the 1 series..cant recall what the name is. Apparently, the engineers are facing some challenge with harmonics!

anyways - think turbo boxer would be awesome but inline 4 N/A is a better option...add VVTIL to it and she`s be sweet:D

Vectracious

10th October 2009, 10:04 PM

but inline 4 N/A is a better option...add VVTIL to it and she`s be sweet:D

too bad you'll need to rev the tits off the thing to get it to do anything.

USC

10th October 2009, 10:30 PM

too bad you'll need to rev the tits off the thing to get it to do anything.

oh well..I like revving:D

Inline 4 vvtiL would be better than a vvt boxer N/A.

rjastra

12th October 2009, 10:32 AM

The coupe is built on the Impreza chassis so the flat 4 is a given I would assume.

Wraith

12th October 2009, 10:50 AM

Toyota owns a chunk of Fuji Heavy Industries, which in turn owns Subaru. So really, the boxer engine is an engine that Toyota partly owns and develops. It's cheaper and easier for them to leave the same engine in the car and re-brand it. Doubt anyone would care either if a Toyota had a boxer engine in it rather than an inline 4.

That's interesting Pete, Fuji heavy industries also owns Mitsubishi don't they ??

If so they're all intertwined, a bit like the VAG group :)