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CNBLU
4th August 2009, 11:55 AM
Anyone know of any places in Vic that do carbon fibre wrapping?

MatsHolden
4th August 2009, 11:57 AM
Anyone know of any places in Vic that do carbon fibre wrapping?

What exactly are you after mate?

gman
4th August 2009, 01:19 PM
Do you mean the Carbon Dipping type or using actual carbon fibre??

Wraith
4th August 2009, 01:29 PM
I know of a place here in Melb. (Heidelburg) that can make you up anything in CF, but not sure if that's what your after...??

gman
4th August 2009, 01:30 PM
Really?!?! Where are they? :idea:

Wraith
4th August 2009, 01:40 PM
Really?!?! Where are they? :idea:

Heidelburg Gman - are you familiar with Melb. north eastern suburbs ??

If you want, I'll get all their details for you - I know the owner :)

Be warned - nothing they do is cheap...

gman
4th August 2009, 02:10 PM
Not really familiar with Melbourne..Might be interested though...Do they do one off's etc???

I REALLY want a proper carbon or carbon/kevlar bonnet with a negative pressure vent!!!! :)

CNBLU
4th August 2009, 04:04 PM
pm sent mat;)

CNBLU
4th August 2009, 04:05 PM
thanks ange but northern suburbs are too far:o

Wraith
4th August 2009, 05:09 PM
Not really familiar with Melbourne..Might be interested though...Do they do one off's etc???

I REALLY want a proper carbon or carbon/kevlar bonnet with a negative pressure vent!!!! :)

Yes they do...

They will do the full CAD design or if you wish, you can supply them with the file in AutoCAD preferably :)

For something like the above, I'd suggest you get the design done somehow yourself Gman, otherwise it's going to cost you a serious fortune to get something like that 'properly' modelled up by them...and then there's the tooling costs...might be an idea to get a certain quatity made and then try sell em off to recoupe costs IMO...

Wraith
4th August 2009, 05:11 PM
thanks ange but northern suburbs are too far:o

Not really...

Hell I've travelled from Melb. to Albury to pick up small bits of hardware...

All depends how badly you want something :)

MatsHolden
4th August 2009, 05:51 PM
AutoCAD



Yuck. :lol:

[OPCSRi]
4th August 2009, 08:30 PM
thanks ange but northern suburbs are too far:oLOL! Good for me. :D Can i have the address to this place. ;)

Keep'emRunning
4th August 2009, 11:08 PM
..seriously, no one is going to reverse engineer or point scan an entire bonnet to cnc a mold for it :)

Easier to mod an existing one, and pull a mold from it 'old skool'... then use that to make parts with.

But if gav wants a part carbon laminated, there's ways to do it (eg vac bagging) but depends a lot on curvature, the draft angles involved, and type/weight of cloth used.

It's possible to do hand layup over the object in 3/4oz carbon/epoxy and coat it with 2 pack clear with good results, but as a result the part ends up larger as it's an additive process. And the lighter the carbon, the more expensive it's going to be (thinner tows)

Hence the popularity of carbon dipping... :)

Wraith
5th August 2009, 09:43 AM
Yuck. :lol:

Maybe...but it's long been the industry standard in some sectors :)

A whole heap of new software packages have been released in the last 5+ years, alot from the same provider of AutoCAD (Autodesk) will be interesting to see which takes hold and becomes the future accepted 'norm'.

I was around in the day when CAD 1st appeared and slowly replaced the drg. boards...back then, I never would have thought AutoCAD would've grown into what it is today, if you think it's yuk now, I can tell you it was totally pathetic back then LOL...IMO it only started to get decent by version 2000, almost a decade and a half after it appeared...

Damn I miss the good ol drawing board...:idea:

Wraith
5th August 2009, 09:51 AM
..seriously, no one is going to reverse engineer or point scan an entire bonnet to cnc a mold for it :)

Easier to mod an existing one, and pull a mold from it 'old skool'... then use that to make parts with.

That is exactly the way they would do it and it is the way precision high quality aftermarket CF bonnets are made...original scanned and then modified or restyled/shaped etc. - hence why I stated to Gman it'll cost a serious fortune for a one off doing it through a company like the one I know of...

Definitely better off doing it as suggested in your 2nd paragraph as a one off for yourself, only real prob is one way or the other there would be a compliance issue if it's for a street vehicle...so is it really worth the expense and effort in the end ??

MatsHolden
5th August 2009, 07:44 PM
Maybe...but it's long been the industry standard in some sectors :)

A whole heap of new software packages have been released in the last 5+ years, alot from the same provider of AutoCAD (Autodesk) will be interesting to see which takes hold and becomes the future accepted 'norm'.

I was around in the day when CAD 1st appeared and slowly replaced the drg. boards...back then, I never would have thought AutoCAD would've grown into what it is today, if you think it's yuk now, I can tell you it was totally pathetic back then LOL...IMO it only started to get decent by version 2000, almost a decade and a half after it appeared...

Damn I miss the good ol drawing board...:idea:
Just hate using AutoCAD. Autodesk's Solidworks is much better! AutoCAD is slowly being taken over by the likes of Solidworks. Very slowly though!

Keep'emRunning
5th August 2009, 08:18 PM
disagree.. almost all advertised eng. jobs ask for autodesk experience of one form or another, and with inventor and autocad likely to become one integrated product, it won't shift to solidworks/solidedges favour anytime soon :)

Wraith
5th August 2009, 08:51 PM
Just hate using AutoCAD. Autodesk's Solidworks is much better! AutoCAD is slowly being taken over by the likes of Solidworks. Very slowly though!

Maybe for industrial designers Mat...

The biggest market/industry for AutoCAD is the building industry, ie. architects and consulting engineers...

The new kid on the block here is 'Revit'...there's a specialist version for all diciplines, it too is 'slowly' taking grip :)

Whether or not it takes over or not dosn't matter, not at least to the software supplier as both it and AutoCAD are from the same people - Autodesk...win-win for them...

Wraith
5th August 2009, 08:58 PM
disagree.. almost all advertised eng. jobs ask for autodesk experience of one form or another, and with inventor and autocad likely to become one integrated product, it won't shift to solidworks/solidedges favour anytime soon :)

Exactly with the 1st part, as I've described in my post above...the engineering industry has AutoCAD as its mainstream CADD (computer aided design and drafting/documentation) tool and has been for approx. the last 14 years...

However I don't think Inventor and AutoCAD will become one...although that could happen 'long term' down the track if, when and maybe there's a new/different mainstream software package being used, eg. Revit, that's the way it's looking ATM and has been for almost the past 2 years now...

The GFC has had a large part to play in 'slowing' things down, but now as economies recover, it'll be interesting to see what happens :)