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rjastra
23rd July 2009, 07:15 AM
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?articleID=64483
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=64485
Wraith
23rd July 2009, 08:42 AM
My opinion of this car remains the same - I like it :)

From that review, it sounds like a better car than the previous model...

I wonder how tuning will affect that electronic set up it has to control torque production and torque steer though, hopefully it's still at least a little tuner friendly, after all who wouldn't want to give it a little bump up in power like what's available to most/all turbo charged cars :)

I'd have to say though, that for the money I'd go for a MY09 onwards WRX sedan...just from a performance standpoint, it's got the goods to kick any hot hatch in the guts and with some tuning it'll stomp the best of them as well as being a practicle not bad looking mid size 4 door sedan...
GreyRex
23rd July 2009, 08:48 AM
My opinion of this car remains the same - I like it :)

From that review, it sounds like a better car than the previous model...

I wonder how tuning will affect that electronic set up it has to control torque production and torque steer though, hopefully it's still at least a little tuner friendly, after all who wouldn't want to give it a little bump up in power like what's available to most/all turbo charged cars :)

I'd have to say though, that for the money I'd go for a MY09 onwards WRX sedan...just from a performance standpoint, it's got the goods to kick any hot hatch in the guts and with some tuning it'll stomp the best of them as well as being a practicle not bad looking mid size 4 door sedan...

I could not walk up to a (even a MY09) WRX and think... yes i've purchased the right car. I'm sorry, but it's an absolutely horrible looking car and the interior honestly looks/feels horrible as well. I can appreciate what it's now like, but it is not at all for me. I haven't not driven it (nor do I plan to), and haven't driven a 3 MPS either. For some reason, i don't dislike the overall package of this new 3 MPS (specifically... not the rest of the 3 range)


EDIT: I'd rather spend around 40K on a 2 year old BMW 130i
Wraith
23rd July 2009, 08:57 AM
I could not walk up to a (even a MY09) WRX and think... yes i've purchased the right car. I'm sorry, but it's an absolutely horrible looking car and the interior honestly looks/feels horrible as well. I can appreciate what it's now like, but it is not at all for me. I haven't not driven it (nor do I plan to), and haven't driven a 3 MPS either. For some reason, i don't dislike the overall package of this new 3 MPS (specifically... not the rest of the 3 range)

That's fair enough each to their own, I've checked one out and think the exact opposite (ie. the sedan model), it's proportions are not bad (ie. looking at it in the flesh, pictures do it no justice) and the full leather interior pack is also not bad, the only part I dislike is the dash dial cluster design, but it does light up very nicely :)

New Mazda 3 range is very nice IMO, I'd be so very tempted if Mazda Aust. brings in the Mazda 3 TDi variant with the same 2.2ltr TDi engine as used in the new Mazda 6 TDi model...

It's got to be one of the best and most refined diesel powerplants going ATM.
btm
23rd July 2009, 10:47 AM
fugly as!
HappySlapper82
23rd July 2009, 11:32 AM
fugly as!

+1 and look it's a girls car :p
DirtyHarry
23rd July 2009, 11:48 AM
nah man...its a big giant grin with wheels..
looks like a typical "costello" smirk
mania
23rd July 2009, 12:49 PM
I just cannot get over that front. Sorry. Wasn't even able to read the review.
JR
23rd July 2009, 01:22 PM
me no like either :yikes:

gone r the days of good mps 3s.
.....and the mps 6s!!!
JohnBu
23rd July 2009, 02:19 PM
I agree with Wraith, for the money I'd be looking at a wrx.

I personally think they both look very average, but AWD tips it in favour of the MY09 wrx.

there's a big difference between the MY08 and MY09 wrx.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind owning and driving the MPS or WRX. I wouldn't like to look at them, but driving them is another matter :D
USC
23rd July 2009, 06:31 PM
The interior of the MY09 WRX looks like a 1980 nissan pulsar, leather looks cheap and gross golden silver bits- also, only wrx sedan looks good (other models look like kia)
The new 3 MPS is ok. Does not look much different to the older model. The sat nav included in the dash looks nice. I wonder if they have used soft material for dash bits or still hard plastics like in the previous model.

WRX would be my choice only because of AWD.
btm
24th July 2009, 08:45 AM
WRX would be my choice only because of AWD.
+1

i also reckon it more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than the mazda
Wraith
24th July 2009, 08:58 AM
The interior of the MY09 WRX looks like a 1980 nissan pulsar, leather looks cheap and gross golden silver bits- also, only wrx sedan looks good (other models look like kia)
The new 3 MPS is ok. Does not look much different to the older model. The sat nav included in the dash looks nice. I wonder if they have used soft material for dash bits or still hard plastics like in the previous model.

WRX would be my choice only because of AWD.



+ 2 ie. the sedan

Because of AWD + performance...

Mazda 3 interior is very, very good IMHO, having checked one out USC it does have a quality feel, would go for a new 3 sedan if available with the 2.2ltr TDi over the WRX sedan :)
USC
24th July 2009, 09:58 AM
+ 2 ie. the sedan

Because of AWD + performance...

Mazda 3 interior is very, very good IMHO, having checked one out USC it does have a quality feel, would go for a new 3 sedan if available with the 2.2ltr TDi over the WRX sedan :)

nice! If only they made a sedan mazda 3 mps + awd :D
Wraith
24th July 2009, 12:42 PM
nice! If only they made a sedan mazda 3 mps + awd :D

Could not agree more once again !

That's what I was hoping for the 1st time around...

I'm convinced they didn't because of 2 main reasons, they knew it would kill the MPS 6 in canabilised sales and one of the best selling segments of late has been the hot hatch market...
kabel
24th July 2009, 09:28 PM
The Mazda is okay in the right colour...say red ,prefer the XR5 though.
Subaru have totally lost the plot from a design point,the new Liberty just reinforces my opinion.I have seen a sedan in the flesh and I still don`t get it. I could live with the WRX Sti hatch though but again for the money
would be handing over the folding stuff for a BMW or Audi with lesser performance.
Each to their own though !