Astra with Audi rims...

[BEK-46P]

I was browsing the UK forums and came across this. What do you think?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/razorntfc/DSC00662.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/razorntfc/IMGP1658.jpg

I think it's class!

Well, I'd at least change the caps if it were mine...

[RobCDX]

i agree, looks really good but identity crisis there with the centre caps hehe

[tomtom]

i ddint know the audi rims fit - arent they 5x112?

[BEK-46P]

I'm guessing they're imitation, redrilled maybe?

Also came across this, which I'm not as forgiving about:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4935/p0310081635.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7929/lgim0018.jpg

If you still need it spelled out for you:

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/2421/lgim0017.jpg

Did someone say identity crisis? :out:

[tomtom]

yer i saw that a while ago. I acutally liked it until they gay-sprayed it with that wierd paint/primer look

As for the identify crisis, i dont have any problems with rims being from diff manufacturers as long as tehy fit.

[chrissn89]

yer i saw that a while ago. I acutally liked it until they gay-sprayed it with that wierd paint/primer look

As for the identify crisis, i dont have any problems with rims being from diff manufacturers as long as tehy fit.
+1 they looked awesome in the original colour

[BEK-46P]

It's okay looks-wise, it's just the concept of an Astra driving around with Merc wheels that I can't get my head around. I wonder how he's making out in the street cred department.

[tomtom]

It's okay looks-wise, it's just the concept of an Astra driving around with Merc wheels that I can't get my head around. I wonder how he's making out in the street cred department.

I'll let you know after i get AMG wheels lol.

[Calibrated]

both sets of wheels are seriously hot (well the amg ones were before they got sprayed) but yeah, definitely change the centre caps on the audi wheels, and fill in the AMG logo on the others.

[Manda88]

There is tonnes of vids on youtube of ' audi astras' most are just because people have done the led headlight thing. But there is some who have fully rebadged as audi I think I saw one with s3 badges lol. Chavs

[Manda88]

On aon there is a coupe with golf gti rims I think they suited well

[R3N]

you can get bolts to fit 5x112 rims on 5x110 hubs, i think the uk fellas call em wobbly bolts

[vectraguy01]

those are rep rims, so they are made to fit basically and PCD.

[ASTRAY]

that first astra looks real nice with those rims.

[Manda88]

i like the amg but not a fan of the audi ones... there just too big for the car, makes it look more like a wagon to me.. too much metal

AMG ones are awesome 5 spokes when they were silver but

[tomtom]

you can get bolts to fit 5x112 rims on 5x110 hubs, i think the uk fellas call em wobbly bolts

yer?

Anyone else have anymore info on this before I do a google?

[Manda88]

id imagine they are illegal like wheel spacers right?

[sooty]

id imagine they are illegal like wheel spacers right?
Nah, pretty sure they're like the elliptical bolts used in camber kits.
You can do it....but i wouldn't want to...

[poita]

wobbly bolts is it

afaik they are illegal

[Manda88]

i was told you can get re-drilled plugs, they drill your existing ones wider and then they plug them up so they line up.. but IMO i bet thatd look like crud..

only cars i know that do 5x110 other than opel is saab..

[tomtom]

thats a shame :(

[Manda88]

want some triangle saab wheels of awesomeness?? lol
http://photo.stipud.com/d/53-2/DSC01908.jpg

[SRI004]

1st one looks mickey mouse apart from the centre caps

[Wraith]

you can get bolts to fit 5x112 rims on 5x110 hubs, i think the uk fellas call em wobbly bolts

Correct - more precise name to them is 'offset lugs' but yes generally refered to as 'wobble bolts'...

I have a set of Momo 17" 5x112 PCD wheels I've run on both my Cali and Astra with those...if anyone's interested let me know and I'll post up some pics of them.

Back on topic, those Audi rims look good on the Astra (that style will suit most cars IMO) but as mentioned by others a good idea to replace the centre logo cap appropriately or it looks ridiculous having a different car manufacturers name on there...

[Wraith]

yer?

Anyone else have anymore info on this before I do a google?

Missed this post - looks like I'll have to put some info up on them...

Will have to be this weekend when I've get some time to take pics of mine and give you guys a a bit of a description on them :)

[poita]

i always reckon tehse would look good on a black astra
similar style

http://www.bbosswheels.com/Eleanor-lrg.jpg

[Wraith]

Nah, pretty sure they're like the elliptical bolts used in camber kits.
You can do it....but i wouldn't want to...

Nope not like that at all...

As mentioned I've got a set of wheels I've run with them on both my Opels over a period of 7 years and never had any issues with them, they are totally secure and reliable ! not sure however on the legality of them ?? they are very common and all of the major aftermarket wheel manufacturers make them :)

[Wraith]

i was told you can get re-drilled plugs, they drill your existing ones wider and then they plug them up so they line up.. but IMO i bet thatd look like crud..

only cars i know that do 5x110 other than opel is saab..

That's the most common method used to transform wheels to any PCD that's not available and if done properly the integrity of the rim is the same as it originally was, as the original rim also features a drilled hole with a steel plug or insert ;) also if done properly they don't look crud and they will line up perfectly as they are re-drilled on a CNC machine :)

SAAB factory rims are indeed 5x110 (who knows if that will continue though) and in Europe there are numerous aftermarket wheels available in 5x110 because the demand is there for it - different story here in Aust. however it is possible to get many styles converted (usually using 5x114.3 Jap fitment rims) the difficult part is finding rims with a suitable offset and width more so than the 5x110 PCD !

[Wraith]

i always reckon tehse would look good on a black astra
similar style

http://www.bbosswheels.com/Eleanor-lrg.jpg

They do look good Pete...I've seen them in 19" on a TS - very nice, despite not fitting in properly...

Prob is the width and offset of those is all wrong for an earlier series Opel (they hang out on this TS I mentioned) and here in Melb. every 2nd man and his dog with a Commodore has those rims LOL :)

[Senor Ed]

Theres is guy on astra owners network with porsche 911 5 spoke 19" rims on his maroon convertible TS.

[Wraith]

Theres is guy on astra owners network with porsche 911 5 spoke 19" rims on his maroon convertible TS.

I've seen quite a few Opels with Porsche rims - they are 5x112 (like Mercs) and depending on the lug hole size, they can sometimes be used with standard lugs, ie: not having to resort to wobble bolts...seen this done by quite a few people as well ;)

[poita]

They do look good Pete...I've seen them in 19" on a TS - very nice, despite not fitting in properly...

Prob is the width and offset of those is all wrong for an earlier series Opel (they hang out on this TS I mentioned) and here in Melb. every 2nd man and his dog with a Commodore has those rims LOL :)

up here is no different.

such a s shame they become the 'bogans choice'
such a nice wheel

same as my wheels, bob jane made a knock off copy of em and every commodore/falcon/lancer ahd em :(

[sooty]

Just for those who are interested in what wobbly bolts look like..
http://www.serpentautosport.com/varibolt1web.jpg

[Apex]

That first Astra looks photo shopped to me. Looks good though. Its probably a 1.4

[Wraith]

up here is no different.

such a s shame they become the 'bogans choice'
such a nice wheel

same as my wheels, bob jane made a knock off copy of em and every commodore/falcon/lancer ahd em :(

They're made standard in 5x120 so will be popular with Commodores and Beemers...:)

[sooty]

That first Astra looks photo shopped to me. Looks good though. Its probably a 1.4

Nah, it's not shopped.
And it's a chipped 1.9 diesel.
http://www.astraownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=65381&highlight=coilovers

[Wraith]

Just for those who are interested in what wobbly bolts look like..
http://www.serpentautosport.com/varibolt1web.jpg

Yep, that's them...

When I get the chance, I'll put further pics up of mine as are and all fitted up :)

As previously mentioned, they work well with no probs at all...

[Apex]

Nah, it's not shopped.
And it's a chipped 1.9 diesel.
http://www.astraownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=65381&highlight=coilovers

Well there you go.

It looks good, I have noticed a lot of the Americans fit that style wheel to Golf’s.

[ASTRAY]

Just for those who are interested in what wobbly bolts look like..
http://www.serpentautosport.com/varibolt1web.jpg

does the collar move around for a neat fit? (like a washer) or is it fixed to the bolt like normal ones?

[Ice]

Here is a TS with those wheels ! the chick who bought my car put them on. personally I dont like them...but then its not my car anymore.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/hoppe777/KatieAstra.jpg

[sooty]

does the collar move around for a neat fit? (like a washer) or is it fixed to the bolt like normal ones?

I assume the collar would have to move around the bolt, otherwise there's no way that the thread could screw in as the collar would continually hit the wheel..:confused:

[BEK-46P]

Here is a TS with those wheels ! the chick who bought my car put them on. personally I dont like them...but then its not my car anymore.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/hoppe777/KatieAstra.jpg

Don't suit the car I'm afraid!

[tomtom]

Missed this post - looks like I'll have to put some info up on them...

Will have to be this weekend when I've get some time to take pics of mine and give you guys a a bit of a description on them :)

thanks mate I do want to know more

[tomtom]

does the collar move around for a neat fit? (like a washer) or is it fixed to the bolt like normal ones?

I cant visualise it and its making me all antsy.

Woudlnt the bolts make the wheels off center to the hub? ie: if all of the bolts were touching the bottom of the collar????

D: D: D:

*punches head*

I don't doubt that they work (else no one would use them). I just cant wrap my head around it.

DOesnt help that its 12:30 am haha

[Wraith]

I assume the collar would have to move around the bolt, otherwise there's no way that the thread could screw in as the collar would continually hit the wheel..:confused:

Correct...

It moves around about the bolt (hence the name 'wobble') and sits neatly in the chamfered lug recess on the rim, with the bolt being off centre to the washer but neatly seated and perfectly aligned and screwed into the hub threaded hole... :)

[Wraith]

thanks mate I do want to know more

As mentioned if you can all wait till the weekend, I'll take pics of my Momos with these lugs and put them up...

For anyone interested, this topic was raised about 2 or 2 and half years ago by BR (Blueraven) and I explained it all with pics of my rims back then, maybe a search will bring it up :)

[glider]

I cant visualise it and its making me all antsy.

Woudlnt the bolts make the wheels off center to the hub? ie: if all of the bolts were touching the bottom of the collar????

D: D: D:

*punches head*

I don't doubt that they work (else no one would use them). I just cant wrap my head around it.

DOesnt help that its 12:30 am haha

I would have thought that it'd be centered by the lip of the hub that sticks out in the middle around the driveshaft spline as shown here

http://www.lights-b2b.com/b2b/pics/Wheel_Hub_Unit_Bearing__Wheel_Hub_Bearing_Assembly .jpg

[sooty]

Had a quick search on here for "wobbly" found some old threads, one had a decent description in it.


the collar is seprate to the bolt so moves independantly to the bolt, so to make the wheel fit a slightly different PCD you use the wobbly bolt to make a tight lock onto the hub. As the bolt goes in the wheel the collor locates in the hole before the bolt, this means as all the bolts are tightened the bolt locks into the collar not the actual wheel and therefore allows the bolt to fit a slightly different PCD and still locks tight onto the hub!

[Wraith]

That's a very good brief description above ^^^^

Another point to note is that wobble bolts are really only used on capped rims, ie: rims with a centre cover cap.

The reason for this is because the 'collar' is too large to be used on exposed hole rims and would require the lug hole to be huge, but in rims with a centre covering cap there's alot more room to play with in this regard and the final look dosn't matter as it's all covered up...again I'll post pics of my Momos so you can all see what this looks like :)

And as with all aftermarket rims, because they're made to suit all types of cars the centre hub hole is oversized and they employ a 'CBL' or more commonly known as hub locators to centre the wheel - this is not something that's done by the lugs on any wheel, they're usually plastic rings but some of the high end rim manufacturers (Momo etc.) make them in aluminium :)

[tomtom]

thanks for the info guys.

Im gonna check out what the legalities of using these bolts are