HSV W427, last order being taken.

[poita]

Get in quick everyone, they are almost gone :)

http://www.hsv.com.au/w427/

[btm]

pretty amazing they are all gone considering the current economic climate

[Calibrated]

even if i could afford one.. i wouldnt buy one. only for the die hard commonwhore fan with too much money really.

[Wraith]

The people who have bought them are of the opposite opinion !!!

They've bought them in the hope of a future investment cash cow !!! it's already been publicised that the majority of them will never be seen on the roads as they will be put away in storage...

If in 20-30 years time, ' if ' they have the same surge in popularity and price hikes as the current trend for vintage muscle cars, their gamble would've more than payed off ;)

[gman]

If they are like 99% of other HSV's, they'll be $35,000 in 5 years...Which is a pity because 7.0Lts of v8 power would be a lot of fun... :)

[Jerram]

I don't know that they'll become classics.

[Jerram]

If they are like 99% of other HSV's, they'll be $35,000 in 5 years...Which is a pity because 7.0Lts of v8 power would be a lot of fun... :)

You should try getting a 440 inch dodge engine then...

[MatsHolden]

Awesome car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxG0vMGz58g

[lee683]

id buy one. if i had the money.

[GreyRex]

If i had the money, there's no way i'd buy one

I appreciate what it can do, but i'll take an M3 sedan for the same price

[Wraith]

If i had the money, there's no way i'd buy one

I appreciate what it can do, but i'll take an M3 sedan for the same price

For the same price - R35 GT-R for me :D

But if in a few decades the W427 is worth a small fortune, I'd be kicking myself :mad2:

Then again the R35 might be worth big bucks too ;)

[DirtyHarry]

i think if you kept one of these W427 in prime condition with hardly any km at all, it should double in price in say 30 years.

[lee683]

but the way things are going u wont be able to drive it in 30 years lol

[MatsHolden]

but the way things are going u wont be able to drive it in 30 years lol

I don't think you would drive it. If you were buying it in 30 years, you'd be buying it as an investment.

[Wraith]

i think if you kept one of these W427 in prime condition with hardly any km at all, it should double in price in say 30 years.

Yep, as I mentioned in my 1st post, at least 9/10 buyers of this car are hoping for just that....

Thing is in 3 decades time petrol powered cars are going to be 'probably' extinct - very different situation to ever before, so it could work either way, they'll either be worth a fortune or be worth absolutely nothing if no one will want a petrol powered vehicle...

[GreyRex]

I don't think you would drive it. If you were buying it in 30 years, you'd be buying it as an investment.

Such an expensive gamble ey...

I'd rather spend my money and enjoy it, rather than hoping... one day... possibly... that it would be worth it :D

[DirtyHarry]

spend it on high class hookers i say.

[Wraith]

Such an expensive gamble ey...

I'd rather spend my money and enjoy it, rather than hoping... one day... possibly... that it would be worth it :D

Good point, but again most of those who have bought this car are older folk and multiple car owners already, they have their driving cars to enjoy and have purchased the W427 for a specific purpose, they wouldn't look at the overall picture like most here are, as just an 'ordinary' car purchase...bit hard to relate to that if your not in the same boat :)

[Wraith]

spend it on high class hookers i say.

You'd have no knackers left after a few years and 160k+ of pounding hookers LOL :D

[Calibrated]

Good point, but again most of those who have bought this car are older folk and multiple car owners already, they have their driving cars to enjoy and have purchased the W427 for a specific purpose, they wouldn't look at the overall picture like most here are, as just an 'ordinary' car purchase...bit hard to relate to that if your not in the same boat :)
so they will be dead before the car is worth anything? :D

[Wraith]

so they will be dead before the car is worth anything? :D

Hopefully for them, by the time they're hitting 60+ they'll still be active - make for a good retirement either way, either sell for a monstrous price or keep it and enjoy it, ie. if there's any petrol left or available for cars by then ??? that's what I'd be more worried about than anything else related to cars if you look 3 or more decades ahead from now :arf:

[Ice]

Hmmm pretty cool website !

but its going to be a gamble to keep it so long. Mind you most cars with jack K/s in 30 years would be worth a fortune.

Volkswagon beetles.....they made gazillions and Lindsay fox has one with 15km on the clock......must be worth a heap now.

[xplosv57]

The problem i see is, back in the 70s when the muscle cars were around, all the young cool guys were driving their GTHO's and Monaro's and now they're worth a mint because they're rare to find, but also those 'young guys' are now in their 50s and 60s and wanna relive their passion they had all those years back.

Now with the current cars, 95% of them aren't being driven and most likely will be forgotten, so in years to come, will people be screaming for one........

[kabel]

The problem i see is, back in the 70s when the muscle cars were around, all the young cool guys were driving their GTHO's and Monaro's and now they're worth a mint because they're rare to find, but also those 'young guys' are now in their 50s and 60s and wanna relive their passion they had all those years back.

Now with the current cars, 95% of them aren't being driven and most likely will be forgotten, so in years to come, will people be screaming for one........

Wise words from someone so young !
And I feel you are probably right.
For my money if I were to buy one it would be driven not hidden.

[Shaun]

Was behind a white W427 Thursday night. Very Very Nice . And sound good too..

[xplosv57]

Wise words from someone so young !
And I feel you are probably right.
For my money if I were to buy one it would be driven not hidden.

Yeah have spent alot of time with family, friends and colleagues who grew up in that time hearing the many stories about those days.

Eric Bana's doco 'Love The Beast' (which i saw after i wrote that) really shows the good old days of muscle cars in australia!!

[glider]

I saw one of these today, plates were HSV700

was on road I cant think of the name of now, next to bunnings carseldine (heading towards the overpass)

looks impressive from the front, but the rear is a bit like alot of the other current HSVs you see on the road... :rolleyes:

for the price tag, they don't have that much presence tho, if you hadn't seen one before you'd just look at it as another hsv...

[lee683]

other HSV's have a big wing on them. the W427 doesnt. only a small lip one

[entice]

IF I had the spare cash, I'd buy one - unregistered if possible.

Guaranteed future money IMHO.

for how much longer will we be able to buy 7L of power? Not much longer.

Same reason I looked long and hard at an R8 Tourer to replace the wife's wagon... These things wont be around for much longer. And as they say in the classics, better to have lived and loved, and to lose, rather than not to have loved at all...

Even if you wont be driving it, in say, 20yrs time, it still will be worth the right money in time to come.

I still snap my neck every time I see/Hear an old Hemi/Camaro/Cuda thrum past... I can love those cars, but I can only appreciate say a similar mint Corolla or Japanese fair....

[chrissn89]

Just throwing it out there, but in say 20, 30, 40 years will a modern car with all the electronics and gadgets work without major problems? I mean the old V8 classics in 60's,70's and 80's really had shit all electronics i mean what can really go wrong with a good old carby and air vents. Most had no power steering or air-con, power windows, CD/MP3 player/DVD/GPS media center thingy, ECU etc just to name a few. Fixing up an old car is alot easier than a new 2009 car.

I could be worng but just my two cents.

[entice]

I guess the same that applies now to things gone by, 20, 30, 40 or so years ago, will apply in 20, 30, 40 or so years ahead to the things of today...

We take for granted the advances we have, but, we should always bear in mind that just as we think of things in the past as archaic, the next generation will think of our "state of the art" as archaic.

8 track and reel-reel was "superior" to gramophones.
then there was teh compact tape, and DAT.
remember when CD came in..was meant to be the latest and greatest. CD players cost $1000's.
then there was HDCD, SACD, and DVD-A

now we have all the MP3's etc etc...and even blu-ray. how long until all that becomes obsolete and "old school"

Preschoolers will be able to "tune" and fiddle with the "gadgets" of our sophisticated modern machines. It's only a matter of time until we'll be able o have Tech2 capabilities with iPhones etc etc.. and then that will be replaced by something else that does it easier and so on and so on.

In essence, we're only ever modern compared to our past....

[xplosv57]

Also another thing to take into account is the build quality, cars 30 or so years ago were built very structurally sound, lots of metals etc built to last whereas nowadays in our disposable society, cars are built to last 5 or so years to get replaced with a new one......

[Manda88]

For the same price - R35 GT-R for me :D

But if in a few decades the W427 is worth a small fortune, I'd be kicking myself :mad2:

Then again the R35 might be worth big bucks too ;)


but the r35 might end up like the r33 in 15 years time aswell (common as hell)... ya never know lol

i guess you got to ask yourself with the w427.. how much for a new timing belt or other parts :pif there is only 427 of them hehe:D

[xplosv57]

but the r35 might end up like the r33 in 15 years time aswell (common as hell)... ya never know lol

i guess you got to ask yourself with the w427.. how much for a new timing belt or other parts :pif there is only 427 of them hehe:D

W427 or any LS series motor doesn't use a timing belt, so thats a non issue!!

Engine bits will always be available for the W427 because the motor and parts are readily available in the US if for some reason Australia runs out (which is doubtful to happen) and body parts would be able to be recreated by HSV in case of an accident, surely the one Garth Tander stacked would have been fixed!!

[Wraith]

Hmmm pretty cool website !

but its going to be a gamble to keep it so long. Mind you most cars with jack K/s in 30 years would be worth a fortune.

Volkswagon beetles.....they made gazillions and Lindsay fox has one with 15km on the clock......must be worth a heap now.

If that's true (which I highly doubt) I've got it made !!!

My old man has a Toyota Corona (remember them) purchased new in 1984 with around only 18,000km on it, not next to nothing, but still hardly anything for its age, be worth a fortune, as said doubt it, but if it will be hooray :)

[Wraith]

but the r35 might end up like the r33 in 15 years time aswell (common as hell)... ya never know lol

i guess you got to ask yourself with the w427.. how much for a new timing belt or other parts :pif there is only 427 of them hehe:D

R35 GT-R's are definitely going to be and are already common !!!

That's one of the main aspects of that car, it's affordabilty and the fact that Nissan is selling it in most Countries unlike any previous GT-R model means it'll be in large numbers no doubt...so yes it's future value may be adversely affected due to being common...

As for the W427 timing belt ??? it's powered by the LS7 V8 - no timing belts in that donk my friend, twin roller steel timing chain ;) lots of specialised heavy duty parts in that engine, it's actually a highly built unit featuring alot of titanium components as well it's a bullet proof monster of a V8 engine :)