to xtreme or not to xtreme?

[auzvectra]

i'm sure most of you know what the astra xtreme is.
i'm trying to decide if i should make a kit on mine like the xtreme, but just not as wide?
i'll prob go 1 - 1 1/2 inch from the wheel arch lip out.

i would like peoples opinions on it, yes or no. constructive criticism only!

couple of pics for consideration.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9695/8664xd8.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8664xd8.jpg)http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7650/8663nr3.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8663nr3.jpg)
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6049/opelastraxtreme4gn5.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opelastraxtreme4gn5.jpg)http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6224/opelastraxtreme2tn2.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opelastraxtreme2tn2.jpg)http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3819/opelastraxtreme1hj9.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opelastraxtreme1hj9.jpg)

[auzvectra]

this may or may not include the HUGE rear wing.
the only reason i would is to match the kit, i like the stock 1, but it prob wouldnt suit the lit.

[poita]

Do it, you will have the power to match the look.
You know you wanna!!

[daiflu]

I'm not really a fan of bodykits, but each to their own.
If you're gonna do it, then do it XTREME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vectracious]

It'd be the only one in Oz.....

If you can (time, money, inclination) I reckon do it. Yeah its a bit OTT but it'll look like a DTM racer :D

[guy 27]

Do it. I have seen a vid a little while back with a hatch with that kit and it looked hot. Only thing that worries me about that kit if someone stands on the side skirts.

[lampshade]

It's a deity of a car , how could you not do it is the real question:confused:

[auzvectra]

well to keep it legal it wont be anywhere near as wide, 1inch off the wheel arch will make it about 2 1/2 to 3 inch under the doors, and i will be making out of sheet metal, not fiberglass, so strength wont be an issue.
it will take a while, but not that long, i plan on sketching it on autocad, n getting a stensil printed out in 1:1 scale, and i have a plasma cutter to make it a clean cut, then there is just the matter of dressing it into correct shape, which wont be that hard as it's quite a square kit. then i will litterally be welding it to the body, means it cant come off, but as i'm doing it legal and have already classed my car a write off for resale it doesnt matter rally.
oh and i have an awd system under thought too, it's be on the drawing board aswell, might even do it at the same time :D.

[auzvectra]

my biggest fear was "is it over the top"
although i do like to go overboard with EVERYTHING, when you do these sorts of mods, nething more then a simple body kit, people either love it or hate it, nothing in between.
i know it's my choice in the end, but i like to get other opinions too ;).
i wouldnt be doing the exact from bar either, as i'd like to retain the large front air dam that mine has.

[Vectracious]

my biggest fear was "is it over the top"


For a daily driver - yes

For a show/concourse car - definately not :D

[auzvectra]

well i'm a poser, so my daily driver is a show car :D :p.
2nd thought on the awd, i will plan it out but it can wait about 12 months.
not that there is much to plan other then how much trouble i have with traction when it's finished.

[auzvectra]

and we have quite a few cars, so the astra wont really be a daily driver.
i have the combo as a work car and drive it most the time during the day neway, and i take it when we go camping as it has plenty of room for gear and a towbar for the boat ;).

[poita]

not really the picture i was after, but u get the point


http://iputatextonimage.com/wp-content/thomas-do-it-faggot.jpg

[lithium]

if it'll turn out anything like those pics i say go for it mate :)

normally i don't like ricer mods, but a few months ago i saw an integra with a wide body kit and i gotta say that looked pretty damn good - wide body kits are eye catching and done right don't look over the top

you'll never get those gullwing doors engineered in Australia though, as all door modifications have to still use the OEM hinges to follow the ADRs...shame because they'd really look unique

[Vectracious]

normally i don't like ricer mods,

won't be a ricer, coz it'll be as fast as it looks.... probably even faster!!! :D

[MatsHolden]

you'll never get those gullwing doors engineered in Australia though, as all door modifications have to still use the OEM hinges to follow the ADRs...shame because they'd really look unique

You can. There's a few places that do it. BIG dollars though.

[poita]

Hilier Conversion did a AU ute with doors like that, the Rapor I think it was

[btm]

you get my vote to do it. i think it'd look pretty good assuming you do it tastefully

[lithium]

You can. There's a few places that do it. BIG dollars though.

are you sure? and it can be engineered? difference between doing and being certified...

[Apex]

i'm sure most of you know what the astra xtreme is.
i'm trying to decide if i should make a kit on mine like the xtreme, but just not as wide?
i'll prob go 1 - 1 1/2 inch from the wheel arch lip out.

i would like peoples opinions on it, yes or no. constructive criticism only!

couple of pics for consideration.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9695/8664xd8.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8664xd8.jpg)http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7650/8663nr3.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8663nr3.jpg)
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6049/opelastraxtreme4gn5.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opelastraxtreme4gn5.jpg)http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6224/opelastraxtreme2tn2.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opelastraxtreme2tn2.jpg)http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3819/opelastraxtreme1hj9.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opelastraxtreme1hj9.jpg)

The Astra Xtream is a coupe so it looks good, they built the car with a massive budget. It also has a V8 and is RWD so it has the grunt and sound to match the look.

Your car is a FWD 4-cylinder hatchback so no I wouldn’t do it will look like ars, I have seen a copy of the kit on a UK car and it looked horrible.

[Greg K]

would be good to see a photo shopped one on a hatch.. might be the deciding factor if it will look good or not..

what material you thinking of making the kit from??

[imay]

This discussion has gone on for long enough . . . you should be half way through doing it by now!

Might as well drop in a 6.0 GM V8 while you're about it . . . speak to Pete on AOC to get a few tips. Just don't paint it Aruba Blue!

[Wraith]

When it comes to this sort of modding, it's really ALL up to you !!!

If you really want to do it, have researched and can achieve all that's required and can afford or are willing to spend what's required to get it done then go for it :)

But do keep in mind as others have mentioned that the Astra 'Xtreme' is based on a TS or Astra G Coupe, not hatch, so your end result, if you decide to do it, will look different...IMO the rear end will be too fat/stumpy looking as there isn't the extra boot length in the hatch variant.

[Calibrated]

not really the picture i was after, but u get the point


http://iputatextonimage.com/wp-content/thomas-do-it-faggot.jpg
x2

Matt you better ****ing do this!!!!
or you shall be castrated

[blueraven]

Have a look at the reiger race kit....very similar but not as over the top.

the guy who shoehorned the V8 into his astra had it :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Pete123/Carpicsb4surgery002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Pete123/CopyofUpdatepics015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Pete123/CopyofUpdatepics017.jpg

And before you say it, yes the kit does come for a hatch model.

[Wraith]

Have a look at the reiger race kit....very similar but not as over the top.

the guy who shoehorned the V8 into his astra had it :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Pete123/Carpicsb4surgery002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Pete123/CopyofUpdatepics015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Pete123/CopyofUpdatepics017.jpg

And before you say it, yes the kit does come for a hatch model.

Agree, this kit is more like it for a street car...

The original Astra extreme vehicle was a bit too boofy and would look a bit out of place on the road IMHO...

Again I wonder what that kit will look like on a hatch which has the shortened/stubby tail end on it ???

[btm]

Again I wonder what that kit will look like on a hatch which has the shortened/stubby tail end on it ???
at the back maybe flare it down lower and thinner perhaps to make it look less square?

[auzvectra]

you do all realise that the main difference between the coupe and the hatch is the roofline not the rear end, the roof drops a lot earlier on the coupe, which makes it look a lot longer in the rear. from memory and scaled from pics, i cant remember 100% but i think they have the same overhang on the rear.

[imay]

This might help solve the argument on whose got the biggest rear!

[auzvectra]

cheer imay, it apears the rear is approx 100mm longer on the coupe ;).
although thats the 5 door hatch not the 3 door i'm sure the 3 door is the same.

[lithium]

won't be a ricer, coz it'll be as fast as it looks.... probably even faster!!! :D

haha, good point :)
i still say go for it, i don't think its too boofy
though personally i'd keep the wide body kit and flared archs but lose a bit off the front air dam. looks like you're driving a bloody bulldozer otherwise!

[ASTRAY]

i say go for it mate, i love the look of the extreme astra, i agree with an earlier post about the square'ish rear end, i think the rear bumper protrudes a little too far but other than that i think it looks hot and id love one in my garage!
i think petes kit from AOC looks great too, up untill i read this topic i had thought that petes kit was exactly the same, but now see that it is a down sized model of the extreme kit.
itd be interesting how youd go about keeping your air dam with the new kit and id also love to see pics of how you have it currently (im lazy and havent checked if you have a "memebrs car" post about it.
welding the new kit will make it take heaps longer and shitloads more work, but that just makes you love it even more when you are finished.
again mate, go for it, your astra imo is extreme already, why not give it a kit to make it a little more extreme!
i know ill be watching this thread very keenly if you go ahead.
good luck mate!
jason.

[auzvectra]

cheers for all the posative feedback guys, looks like a i may go for it. not too sure about knocking the rear back too much, as it's there for aero to increase stability, but ill prob shorten it a bit. the front i will prob do similar to pete's in the way it tapers down to a lower lip extention.
i was considring doing the doors lambo style instead of gullwing but not sure either way. i wouldnt do gull wing as i would have to make all new doors (not that big of a deal, but rater not).

[JR]

no probs with u going for the wide bodykit, but please please please DO NOT make it look like this hideous thing:-
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e122/jrappai/Da%20Car/OpelAus/hideous_02.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e122/jrappai/Da%20Car/OpelAus/hideous_01.jpg

this was in car yard for sale in nz.

i like the blue one shown earlier.

[auzvectra]

yeah my 1st word before i even read ur post, just by the pics "horrid!!".
definately not, but it is good in a way, it lets me know what not to do ;).
the rear arches are too high, making the panel too big, and it needs breaking up with the vent, and also needs to join the front arch.

[ASTRAY]

that gold one looks grotesque!
to me the design of the astras are all about curves, not straight lines, those arches look disgusting, huge flat spots and as auzvectra said, they at least need to join up.
reminds me of the vl walkinshaws, but at least the walkinshaw kits were rounder than the gold astras kit.
auzvectra, i reckon keep the whole thing slimmish like petes. nothing too bulky.
but as mentioned earlier in this thread, its all up to you mate, its your car. i know if i was you i wouldnt care what others think, id do everything the way i want.

[auzvectra]

haha, yeah i plan on doing similar to pete's, just not his front bar, eww.
kinda similar, but just not like that.
and yeah i will have about the same width as his kit aswell, the xtreme kit is about 3inch off the wheel arch, and i plan on about 1 inch.
there isnt a limit on the size of a wide body kit, but there is a limit on the extention to a wheel base, so it's either look crap with the wheels being too far in, or dont go too big, i choose not to go too big ;).

[ASTRAY]

ive never really paid much attention to his front bar before but i agree, it is a bit plain i think, not that my stock one is any better, ive just got basic bar and not even any foggies.
i think the worst looking thing on the stock astras are the rear bars though, they just seem out of shape.
i found this pic on another forum the other day, i like this kit very VERY much! i want one!
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/jaysastra04/btcc-kit.jpg

yeah i know it kind of resembles a ts magna, but i dont mind the look of the 98 magnas.
i think ythe kit suits the car very well, the only exception being, again, the blocky arches.
actually, thinking about it, it kind of also looks like a commodore. not ve.

[dannysport18]

pete in the uk the guy with the LS2 in a Astra has a kit a bit like that
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Pete123/CopyofUpdatepics015.jpg
car is up an working now passed its MOT

[auzvectra]

oh and his motor is an ls1 with ls2 engine covers ;).

[poita]

oh and his motor is an ls1 with ls2 engine covers ;).

Sure is, he liked the LS2 covers more.
Wanna like em a lot for 450pounds lol

[MatsHolden]

are you sure? and it can be engineered? difference between doing and being certified...

Yep, has to be done properly obviously with engineers certicificate. There's a tint place down here with an Excel or Accent or similar with them... god knows why you would spend the money on that... would've cost more than the car itself! lol

[lithium]

Yep, has to be done properly obviously with engineers certicificate. There's a tint place down here with an Excel or Accent or similar with them... god knows why you would spend the money on that... would've cost more than the car itself! lol

haha that would be a sight to see
maybe that excel has a LS1 dropped into it :D

ok cool, i had been told by an engineer that modified doors need to still use the OEM hinges - these guys might have another way around it or move the hinges up to the roofline or something

[auzvectra]

wonder if useing them not as the "main" hinges would pass :D. who says they need to work ;).

[astrauturbo]

one thing i am scared about is that you will start the kit and never finish it , like u did with some of ur other mods. Otherwise cant wait to see it finished ..

[vectraguy01]

oh he will finish it when he starts it

[auzvectra]

haha, tru but.
although in this case it has to be finished, or i cant really drive it. nothing looks worse then a 1/2 finished bodykit.

[ASTRAY]

looky here matt :D
looks real nice in them colours
http://www.m-99.co.uk/Car_Bodykits/Vauxhall_Astra_MK4/vauxhall_astra_mk4.html

[sadavidsriturbo]

Tell me more about the awd .....................

[vectraguy01]

Shhh its a secret lol!

[auzvectra]

well that kit has come down in price ;).

sorry, the awd is a sectret :p.
nah, more like a drawing board project, not worth sayin to much at the moment, might not be posible, but i am VERY stubourn when i want something :D.

[sadavidsriturbo]

well that kit has come down in price ;).

sorry, the awd is a sectret :p.
nah, more like a drawing board project, not worth sayin to much at the moment, might not be posible, but i am VERY stubourn when i want something :D.


yeah it is a little, been trying to find stuff on the net, I cant find not one thing, not even an indication of which way to look :mad:

[auzvectra]

try the lsd aproach 1st, i dont have an issues with traction yet ;).
lsd n good tyres go a long way :).
if i do it, the conversion will cost me bout 5K, parts only!!!
so i will make sure i really need to do it b4 i go ahead with attemping it ;).

[ASTRAY]

i just done some currency converting and that kit is cheaper than a talon kit.
$958.50au
problem is they dont ship to oz.
maybe they would if you begged lol.
its a shame its not available in sedan form too :(

[sadavidsriturbo]

try the lsd aproach 1st, i dont have an issues with traction yet ;).
lsd n good tyres go a long way :).
if i do it, the conversion will cost me bout 5K, parts only!!!
so i will make sure i really need to do it b4 i go ahead with attemping it ;).


5 k parts only.... that's not to bad its the rest that's gonna be the killer but yeah lsd , good tyres and (good) suspension will be first but the thought of Awd crosses my mind every now and then ..