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chrissn89
15th May 2008, 09:51 PM
Ok i put $20 bucks of BP premium fuel (my local one all ways go there) in yesterday arvo, i think the car drove home ok, this morning drove to work and also car drove ok i think. This arvo driving home from work car was jerking/shutting/surging just a weird feeling under acceleration and deceleration.

Example:

So at 60km/h in 3rd or 4th gear car running fine. Take foot fully of acceleration pedal and under engine compression car jerks once or twice (normal does it once but only very small almost not noticeable) then decelerates fine like as normal. Put foot back on accelerator pedal and apply some gas slowly (and no im not just putting my foot flat to the floor) and car jerks/shutting/surging its a weird feeling (normally neva does it)??? does this for like 1/2 a second then runs fine. But its doing this everytime u take your foot off or on the pedal.

Anyone have any ideas??? It feels like the engine is struggling, like im almost in the wrong gear, like i should be in 2nd not 3rd (it does this in any gear any speed and any RPM). Im hoping its not gearbox/clutch/flywheel related and maybe some bad fuel?? as this is the only thing i could think of that may have coursed this.


Thanks for reading and your help in advance :)

Dave
15th May 2008, 10:01 PM
Mine does this on down changes or from near red line when you just let off the accelerator, but i have a feeling its related to my dieing clutch, unless you blip the acelerator \ release the clutch fast and get it spot on it jerks like a bitch....or drive like a grandma and do it all realy slowly.

My clutch wont fully engadge on a down shift unless its pretty much all the way out now.

Tough takeing off, it seems ok, you barely haft to let the clutch out to get it moveing..... but i wait untill its fully engadged normaly before i give it to much go peddal other wise it slips and thats just not cool !

chrissn89
15th May 2008, 10:07 PM
Mine does this on down changes or from near red line when you just let off the accelerator, but i have a feeling its related to my dieing clutch, unless you blip the acelerator \ release the clutch fast and get it spot on it jerks like a bitch....or drive like a grandma and do it all realy slowly.

My clutch wont fully engadge on a down shift unless its pretty much all the way out now.

Tough takeing off, it seems ok, you barely haft to let the clutch out to get it moveing..... but i wait untill its fully engadged normaly before i give it to much go peddal other wise it slips and thats just not cool !

No good about your clutch man. I noticed this problem when i was driving like a grandma so thats why its got me worried. Cheers for the quick reply

USC
15th May 2008, 10:18 PM
is this the first time u are using premium ? ur car must have got used to normal unleaded and not liking the additives in the premium. use it all and try filling completely with normal unleaded from shell. i dont think it is the clutch...engine struggling has nothing to do with clutch... if clutch was slipping, engine would be revving hard to go slowly...

95' GSI
15th May 2008, 10:20 PM
Thats what my Corsa does when the engine sensors are playing up.
Becomes all jerky, then eventually it wont turn over then when it does, it coughs/splutters and dies :(
easy problem to fix if thats the case. Just need to get it re-connect but it's probably not your problem.

chrissn89
15th May 2008, 10:29 PM
is this the first time u are using premium ? ur car must have got used to normal unleaded and not liking the additives in the premium. use it all and try filling completely with normal unleaded from shell. i dont think it is the clutch...engine struggling has nothing to do with clutch... if clutch was slipping, engine would be revving hard to go slowly...

Unfortunately i always put premium 95 or 98 in her, ive never used 91, so that should be fine. Yea your rite about the clutch i didnt think about that.

It does the jerk thing and then just kinda takes off, when under acceleration you can give it as much stick as you want and doesnt bother it. its only when you take your foot off and then back on again?? hmmm. So i was thinking bad fuel maybe, because when its under deceleration its not using any fuel, then when you put your foot back on the pedal it gets a mouth full of it upsets it and then gets over it.

USC
15th May 2008, 10:33 PM
My gf`s car did the same and it was the spark plug leads.

check ur spark plugs and coil pack as well.

If it was a sensor, the ECU light would come on...you could get a scan and see if codes are coming up.

I would start with leads. how many kms has your car done and do u still have original leads?

chrissn89
15th May 2008, 10:42 PM
My gf`s car did the same and it was the spark plug leads.

check ur spark plugs and coil pack as well.

If it was a sensor, the ECU light would come on...you could get a scan and see if codes are coming up.

I would start with leads. how many kms has your car done and do u still have original leads?


No ECU/engine light came on. Not sure if the leads are the original ones, i havnt changed them, in the 50,000kms ive owned her. and im sure the mechanics wouldnt have done it on any of the services. She's got about 148,000km so shes getting on in her life now, although she still goes like a bat outa hell.

CNBLU
15th May 2008, 11:33 PM
Plugs and Coil Pack +1;)

chrissn89
16th May 2008, 06:23 PM
My gf`s car did the same and it was the spark plug leads.

check ur spark plugs and coil pack as well.

If it was a sensor, the ECU light would come on...you could get a scan and see if codes are coming up.

I would start with leads. how many kms has your car done and do u still have original leads?

Ok so today i had a look. My spark plugs by the look of it are the original ones. I went into my local auto electrician to see if they had any, and they didnt. They also think there original ones aswell. There an NKG (think thats it) but they've also got like a twin spark kinda thing happening. Two little sparky things on the spark end. So 148,000km out of the original plugs not too bad. Also the leads look like the original ones aswell.

Leads:
Went into autobarn and they wanted $148.
WalkersAuto and they wanted $145.
Went into holden and they wanted $190 :eek: even the guy at the spare parts desk said hope your feeling rich. Also the coil pack about $190 aswell (from holden).
Ive never brought plugs or leads before but i guess im not gonna get much change from $300 bucks.

Cheers for all the help guys, im hoping the problem is just plugs and leads!!

USC
17th May 2008, 01:10 AM
Ok so today i had a look. My spark plugs by the look of it are the original ones. I went into my local auto electrician to see if they had any, and they didnt. They also think there original ones aswell. There an NKG (think thats it) but they've also got like a twin spark kinda thing happening. Two little sparky things on the spark end. So 148,000km out of the original plugs not too bad. Also the leads look like the original ones aswell.

Leads:
Went into autobarn and they wanted $148.
WalkersAuto and they wanted $145.
Went into holden and they wanted $190 :eek: even the guy at the spare parts desk said hope your feeling rich. Also the coil pack about $190 aswell (from holden).
Ive never brought plugs or leads before but i guess im not gonna get much change from $300 bucks.

Cheers for all the help guys, im hoping the problem is just plugs and leads!!

hey mate, if u r still on original plugs, I suggest changing them first. Dont change your leads as yet as they should last at least until 200,000km but you never know. Get the leads from Holden as they would be a better fit (try get a discount..I find if u ask for a better price, some dealers are willing to do it).
U can get the plugs also from Holden for quite cheap or from a place like Burson or Repco. Burson is cheaper.

EL BURITO
17th May 2008, 10:06 AM
Ok so today i had a look. My spark plugs by the look of it are the original ones. I went into my local auto electrician to see if they had any, and they didnt. They also think there original ones aswell. There an NKG (think thats it) but they've also got like a twin spark kinda thing happening. Two little sparky things on the spark end. So 148,000km out of the original plugs not too bad. Also the leads look like the original ones aswell.

Leads:
Went into autobarn and they wanted $148.
WalkersAuto and they wanted $145.
Went into holden and they wanted $190 :eek: even the guy at the spare parts desk said hope your feeling rich. Also the coil pack about $190 aswell (from holden).
Ive never brought plugs or leads before but i guess im not gonna get much change from $300 bucks.

Cheers for all the help guys, im hoping the problem is just plugs and leads!!
call auto Vaux

www.autovaux.co.uk

they will be genuine GM and take 8 days to arrive at 1/2 the price

USC
17th May 2008, 10:51 AM
call auto Vaux

www.autovaux.co.uk (http://www.autovaux.co.uk)

they will be genuine GM and take 8 days to arrive at 1/2 the price


+1

SKM_87
17th May 2008, 01:52 PM
buy a set of ngk plugs, cheapm will last, and you'll ave then instantly

chrissn89
17th May 2008, 04:34 PM
Cheers guys, ill change the plugs first, and if that doesnt fit it, ill throw some new leads on.

chrissn89
20th May 2008, 08:33 AM
I blue out the fuel filter with the air compressor yesterday arvo, and that deffently helped when you put your foot on the accelerator. So ive ordered a new one and hopefully all sorted.

P.s. Ill still be changing the plugs

USC
20th May 2008, 09:24 AM
I blue out the fuel filter with the air compressor yesterday arvo, and that deffently helped when you put your foot on the accelerator. So ive ordered a new one and hopefully all sorted.

P.s. Ill still be changing the plugs


lol!!! why did u connect an air compressor to your fuel filter??hahah..u have pics??:D

chrissn89
20th May 2008, 11:01 AM
lol!!! why did u connect an air compressor to your fuel filter??hahah..u have pics??:D

Why is that so funny, whats inside the filter?? would blowing it out do nothing? no pics sorry next time ill make a HOW TO

USC
20th May 2008, 11:37 AM
nah, i would never have thought of cleaning a fuel filter...prob. just replace it and it hasnt been designed to be able to clean.

how to??haha:D

poita
20th May 2008, 06:15 PM
just a quick and easy way of eliminating certain things without it costing anything.
smart thing to do ;)

vectraguy01
20th May 2008, 07:39 PM
properly a dirty fuel filter, hey chrissn if u want the k&n panel air filter let me know, ill sell it to ya.

chrissn89
20th May 2008, 09:29 PM
properly a dirty fuel filter, hey chrissn if u want the k&n panel air filter let me know, ill sell it to ya.

Ill see how i go with the pod, so far happy with the noise, althou it may become annoying in the long run. ill shoot you a PM in the future. Cheers