dilemma

[emiliok]

ts astra cd. big question.

18" or 17" for new rims

whats the verdict??

[Dee]

18's if insurance, Vic Roads and your budget will allow!

[tuzinski]

look at my car.
i have 18's

[maloo97]

17's.

[Dee]

look at my car.
i have 18's

well in that case..... 17's for sure!

[lampshade]

Depend's what you want from your car?? 18" if you want great look's 17" if your more into the performance side of thing's.


(I'm turning into a purist LOL:p )

[guy 27]

18's or larger. I kinda wish i went larger than 18" now.

[Vectracious]

17's

[sooty]

18"s if dished as they will look like 17"s...
17"s if the spokes go right to the edge as they will look like 18"s :)

[SKM_87]

what are you looking for? bling???

[maloo97]

What exactly do you want

Style

performance

?????

[emiliok]

well im after a mix of both, the rims im lookin at, the spokes go right to the edge so they do look bigger, however i checked out tuzinski's pic and it looks alright with 18's. performance isnt big on my list, since im not drivin a turbo or anything. do the sri turbos run stock on 18s??

[EL BURITO]

17's if u push it round corners

[EL BURITO]

do the sri turbos run stock on 18s??

AH yes

TS no

[tuzinski]

17's if u push it round corners

i push it around corners..
18x8 hugs the road :)

[JR]

i push hard around corners - so i'm wearing 17s.

18s look good. i the rims LOUDNESS has on his astra.

[poita]

i got 17's, wished they where bigger :(
go 18's

[EL BURITO]

XR4 has a 40 profile I wouldn't go any smaller than that

[Vectracious]

i push it around corners..
18x8 hugs the road :)

so... another set of cheap Linglongs when you wear your current rubber out in 10,000kms?

[tuzinski]

so... another set of cheap Linglongs when you wear your current rubber out in 10,000kms?
wtf? :confused:

[Vectracious]

wtf? :confused:

what tyres do you have on your rims now?

[EAK33Y]

I have 18s 215/35/18 Lowered on King Springs and i sit 13cm off the ground
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff307/Dreamworkz_Media/Illusive%20After%20Finall%20Battle%20Cruise/IMG_7474small.jpg

[tuzinski]

what tyres do you have on your rims now?
nankang, as they CAME with the rims, so i had no choice... (i brought rims privately not from a shop)

[Vectracious]

nankang, as they CAME with the rims, so i had no choice... (i brought rims privately not from a shop)

and when they wear out, what can you afford to replace them with? Bridgestones, Goodyears? or some more awesome nankangs?

[Keep'emRunning]

My car ran 17's almost since I bought it, recently went to 18's. Personal preference really.

http://www.opelaus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=282921&postcount=14

Probably could've gone 40 series rubber to soak up the bumps a bit more though.

[CNBLU]

I have 225/35/18 with hankook ventus sport tyres and cant fault them. The rims do come to the outer edge making them look bigger than what they are.
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/Hott_For_You/cnblu.jpg
If you can afford proper tyres then go 18's if not 17's can look just as good.

[d.c.]

If you can afford proper tyres then go 18's if not 17's can look just as good.

Yeah true, because that 1 inch makes a big difference in tyre price.

When I went wheel shopping there was only $5 difference in the price per rim going from 17's to 18's but there was a $150 difference per tyre, and when you only expect 15k max from the tyres then its a big difference.

If you drive hard or you are planning to, then I think 17's are the better choice, if not, get what ever you like.

[Wraith]

ts astra cd. big question.

18" or 17" for new rims

whats the verdict??

This is a no brainer !!!

18's of course.......

[emiliok]

so if its comin to tyre cost, whats the average difference between tyre prices when it comes to 17s n 18s??

[PaulyJ]

18" tyres are generally more expensive, as you'll then need to go for a lower profile. Best if you went to a tyre place (Tyre Factory, Canterbury Tyres), and get a number of quotes, for rim and tyre packages using different tyres brands etc.

This will give you a much better understanding of what costs you'll be facing, and will help your solve your dilemna a lot easier.

[emiliok]

k cool thanks

[sooty]

The tyre factory you can get 18"s and reasonable (not amazing) tyres for $2k:)

[Wraith]

The tyre factory you can get 18"s and reasonable (not amazing) tyres for $2k:)

You can actually get a good set of 18's with good tyres for well under 2k these days....as low as $1,500 in fact - just shop around ;)

My last set of - off the shelf 20's with 30 series low profile tyres cost me only $2,200 including a full new set of chrome lugs and CBL's and re-drilling and balancing and fitting !!!

There's so much more competition and outlets for wheels these days, even compared to just a few years ago, it has really driven the prices down - good news for us car buffs :D

[EAK33Y]

18s are sooooooooo cheap these days cause everyone is getting 20s and up

Mine where 2500 4 years ago and rubber cost about $175 a tyre

[emiliok]

i went to the tyre factory and they quoted me 1200 for the whole pckage on a set of 17". I recon it was alright because the guy told me that the tyres he fits arent the cheapest but are good midrange. Might go back there and look into it a bit more. also i get the competition, he said he'll beat any price on any rim anytime. cant complain :p

[tuzinski]

and when they wear out, what can you afford to replace them with? Bridgestones, Goodyears? or some more awesome nankangs?
going with bridgestone potenza's when i need to change around 180-220 each fitted. :D

[Vectracious]

going with bridgestone potenza's when i need to change around 180-220 each fitted. :D

I'd like to know which back of the truck these Potenza's have falled off if you think your going to get them for 220/each.

[tuzinski]

I'd like to know which back of the truck these Potenza's have falled off if you think your going to get them for 220/each.
the one that doesn't only deliver them to bridgestone stores :p

[JR]

i'm about to change my rubbers on my 17s, i've looked around for bout a month, n these r the best prices i could find:-

Bridgestone Turanza ER300 - $189
Bridgestone Adrenalin Potenza RE010 - $270
BF Goodrich G Force - $195
Hankook Ventus - $200
Michelin Pilot Preceda - $273

all the prices above r 215/45/17s and includes fitting n balancing.
these aren't the best tyres either!!!

LOUDNESS - u sure bout those prices for ur 18s? :confused:

[d.c.]

I'd like to know which back of the truck these Potenza's have falled off if you think your going to get them for 220/each.

As would I, because that means replacement 17" tyres for me from those guys should be about $90.....Bargin!

[emiliok]

apparently you can only go two sizes up from the stock size, in order to be road worthy. also ive been told it will be hard to get insurance with the 18" especially if they arent road worthy (other than with Just Car)
Is this true?

[Wraith]

I'd like to know which back of the truck these Potenza's have falled off if you think your going to get them for 220/each.

Tyres will always be cheaper when purchased as a package with a full set of rims, instead of tyres only or an individual or a couple of tyres only...as already stated in a complete wheel packeage, you can get a good 20" low profile tyre for around that figure above, so a good 18 can be had for less...

[Wraith]

apparently you can only go two sizes up from the stock size, in order to be road worthy. also ive been told it will be hard to get insurance with the 18" especially if they arent road worthy (other than with Just Car)
Is this true?

The 'normal' rule of thumb is what you've stated above...

Check with your individual insurer and policy you have !!!

Whatever they let you get away with or have, that's what you should stick to ;)

Just make sure the tyre loading specs are in check and you'll have no hassles...

[sooty]

apparently you can only go two sizes up from the stock size,

I thought that was right but it was 2 sizes up from the largest size on the Model, eg G Astra had 17"s on the SRi-T (i think) so you could go 19"s on the G astra's.
You should be fine with 18"s

[JR]

I thought that was right but it was 2 sizes up from the largest size on the Model, eg G Astra had 17"s on the SRi-T (i think) so you could go 19"s on the G astra's.
You should be fine with 18"s

the astra SRi & Turbo are in a different boat to the astra city, cd, equipe etc etc - in terms of legal tyre specs.
the astra SRi & turbo came with 17s standard from factory, whereas the "normal" astras came with 15s or 16s as factory standard.

ur meant to b able to upsize 2" max from these - according to insurance companies.

ur local jaxquikfit or bobjane store can tell u - they have the tables to work all that out, and if its legal for ur car.

[sooty]

Still means 18"s will be legal for them :) Always good news.

[Wraith]

Still means 18"s will be legal for them :) Always good news.

Correct....

As in my 1st post here - 18's are the choice !!!

The only reason to not go 18's is if the budget won't allow ;)

[sooty]

If you could have a set for show for the GT/R wraith...
What size...??? 22"s?
keeping in mind you have the stock set for track work...

[poita]

24" Ftmfw!!!

[sooty]

lol...theres is such thing as too big i reckon lol, don't want it to look like a monster truck...plus...with 24"s...do you just stick an elastic band around the outside as tyre?:D

[Wraith]

If you could have a set for show for the GT/R wraith...
What size...??? 22"s?
keeping in mind you have the stock set for track work...

That's a very good question....

From what I know so far, there is a problem in actually going to an alternative set of wheels (of any size) on the new R35 GT-R, apparantly there is some sort of sensor device built into the original factory rim which will cause probs if these wheels are removed ??? however I've seen 2 new GT-R's with different aftermarket wheels fitted, so there must be a way around it...

As for me if I were to do it, I think judging by the size of the wheel arches, the max. size would be a set of 22's and seeing how good the factory 20's look size wise, a neat 'full spoke length' set of 22's would be perfect :)

[sooty]

What a guess :D
Chrome? Shadow Chrome? White? Black? Powdercoat?

[Calibrated]

i push it around corners..
18x8 hugs the road :)
coz you dont have enough power to break traction :p

[sooty]

ouch for loudness lol
He cops a tough beat lol

[Wraith]

What a guess :D
Chrome? Shadow Chrome? White? Black? Powdercoat?

Again good question and a very hard choice....

For me, it would come down to the colour of the car (I love the new GT-R in the red duco) and what looks best in my eyes, so I would probably opt for a set of rims with a chrome or polished outer lip and a hyper/bright silver or shadow chrome centre, would look awesome on a red vehicle and match the other external shiny bits (door handles and front gaurd vents) on the GT-R :)

Oh and appologies to emiliok for going off topic a bit here :)

[sooty]

lol...my fault...but i kinda figured the question had been thoroughly answered
Sorry emiliok:)

[emiliok]

haha all good nothin like a bit of general banter to kill some time.
just another alternative here..... if i was to get 17" and lower it, in your experienced opinions would the tyre fill out the arches nicely?? ultimately thats what i want, some people have 19" and half the tyre goes missing under the arches, and no offence to them :p but i think that looks u.g.l.y

[JR]

haha all good nothin like a bit of general banter to kill some time.
just another alternative here..... if i was to get 17" and lower it, in your experienced opinions would the tyre fill out the arches nicely?? ultimately thats what i want, some people have 19" and half the tyre goes missing under the arches, and no offence to them :p but i think that looks u.g.l.y

have a look at pics in my profile (http://www.opelaus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9668) - it will give u an idea of how 17s look with 215/40 profiles, lowered 30mm.

[btm]

have a look at pics in my profile (http://www.opelaus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9668) - it will give u an idea of how 17s look with 215/40 profiles, lowered 30mm.

doesnt do it justice IMO... looks so much better in the flesh!

[Wraith]

haha all good nothin like a bit of general banter to kill some time.
just another alternative here..... if i was to get 17" and lower it, in your experienced opinions would the tyre fill out the arches nicely?? ultimately thats what i want, some people have 19" and half the tyre goes missing under the arches, and no offence to them :p but i think that looks u.g.l.y

A bigger wheel will always fill the arches better, in the case of the TS, 20's will fit under there and they fill the arches right up (have a look at the last small pic in my sig).....but if you don't like the look of rubber receding into the gaurds, then a smaller size will have to do.

IMHO 18's will give you a much better result for what your asking for, I've had them on mine with a 30mm drop and they looked neat, with still a bit of gap between tyre and gaurd, with a 40mm drop and 18's the tyre pretty much lined up with the gaurds :)

[tuzinski]

coz you dont have enough power to break traction :p
if i cant break traction as you state, why are do u have a 4wd calibra?
are you scared to break traction :p


doesnt do it justice IMO... looks so much better in the flesh!
+1 :D

[Calibrated]

if i cant break traction as you state, why are do u have a 4wd calibra?
are you scared to break traction :p


I break traction in 6th gear in AWD :D

[poita]

why are do u have a 4wd calibra?

what exactly is this suppose to mean?

[poita]

I break traction in 6th gear in AWD :D

yes i have seen this, little scary watching it!
hate to be in the car with you you lunatic!!!

[Calibrated]

what exactly is this suppose to mean?
i was thinking the same thing.


yes i have seen this, little scary watching it!
hate to be in the car with you you lunatic!!!
:D

[maloo97]

i was thinking the same thing.


:D

Me 3.
I dont get it. Is it one of those things where you have to be 'Special' to understand ?

[sooty]

Come on, don't be so mean lol
It's one of those change your mind mid sentence deals
i've done it plenty of times before..
Was gonna write "why are you driving a 4wd calibra" and changed it to "why do you have a 4wd calibra"
Leave off the poor bloke lol

[Calibrated]

Come on, don't be so mean lol
It's one of those change your mind mid sentence deals
i've done it plenty of times before..
Was gonna write "why are you driving a 4wd calibra" and changed it to "why do you have a 4wd calibra"
Leave off the poor bloke lol
we know :p

just playing with him :p

[maloo97]

Lol good one A.

[sooty]

I know you're playing.
Just making sure he does too :D

[maloo97]

Im sure he does. He's in the nsw section lol :p

[sooty]

Yeah, you're right, everyone from NSW is a joke :D
*waits patiently*

[maloo97]

okok back on topic.
Get back to the The Laundry (http://www.opelaus.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=15981) A.

[sooty]

Already there :D
I must like doing washing...

[R3N]

geez u guys are a messy bunch... don't make me have to clean up in here!

the most important thing with getting new wheels/tyres is to get a proper fit. it isnt as easy as choosing 17s or 18s, you have to take into consideration the width and offset of the wheels as well as the width and profile of the tyres.

i'm running standard SRiT wheels on my TS 1.8, wheels are 17x7.5 and iirc the offset is 35 and 215/40 tyres, my other choice was the 205/45

[Wraith]

Good advice above...by R3N

I'm hoping emiliok is able to stretch his budget a little bit further and grab a set of 18's, they would look soooo much better than a set of 17's :)

Also lots of styles/types available in 18" with the right numbers to suit an Astra, most of which can have the PCD re-drilled to suit as well :)

[emiliok]

this is all great advice, thanks ppl. really appreciate it. its gonna be tough, i dont wanna pick something and it turns out being the wrong decision. but one thing that complicates matters with regards to the 18" is im not really spoilt for choice. got 4 stud wheels, so once i find a style i like, turns out its only avaliable in 17".......

[Wraith]

this is all great advice, thanks ppl. really appreciate it. its gonna be tough, i dont wanna pick something and it turns out being the wrong decision. but one thing that complicates matters with regards to the 18" is im not really spoilt for choice. got 4 stud wheels, so once i find a style i like, turns out its only avaliable in 17".......

That's surprising.....

I've always found that in fact there are numerous more styles available in the 4 stud than 5 stud for our Opels, for both 17" and 18" and even when comparing to the next best thing for a 5 stud to be re-drilled which is 5x114.3 PCD...

All the best with it anyways, look forward to seeing some pics when it's all done :)

[CNBLU]

try this;)

http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_by_car.asp?Keywords=4x100+%2B40&WheelSize=18&runww=%BB+Run+Wheel+Wizard

cant beat em for price and you can thank me later:D

[Wraith]

try this;)

http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_by_car.asp?Keywords=4x100+%2B40&WheelSize=18&runww=%BB+Run+Wheel+Wizard

cant beat em for price and you can thank me later:D

Excellent reccomendation Gav. even I've used them (my last set of 20's) and they're interstate for us in Melb. yet still cheaper including delivery ;)

[CNBLU]

These would be my reccomendation

http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=300

[Wraith]

These would be my reccomendation

http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=300

Not a bad choice !!!

And just as I've mentioned in a previous post on this thread, there you have it - a complete set of 18's for $1,500 + 100 bucks delivery if your outside of NSW :)

[emiliok]

wow they are cheap. thats an awsome site, thanks cnblu

will check some of these out and if i end up getting some from there or wherever i will deff post up some pics :D

[sooty]

Don't be afraid, if you find some you like, to get them re-drilled.
I reckon at least 50% of us have :D

[CNBLU]

They are really great prices but just make sure what tyres you get with the standard package, they are usually nankangs which arnt the best but at that price is a good begginers package.

Glad i could help;)

Gavin

[Keep'emRunning]

Tempe tyres are where I got mine.. The kumho ecsta's that are included in the package are -really- soft, and grip quite well in the dry. Haven't tried them in the wet yet..

Unfortunately being so soft they'd probably be well worn after 20,000k's. I guess that's where they make their money....

[emiliok]

just had an expensive service, replaced all the brake pads and machined the rotors, rims will now hav to wait:(

[Noir]

just had an expensive service, replaced all the brake pads and machined the rotors, rims will now hav to wait:(

Lol and you think your car had an expensive service...

Don't rush the decision with tyres.

I ordered 17's for my TS, Tempe sent me 18's by mistake. :rolleyes:

[tuzinski]

I ordered 17's for my TS, Tempe sent me 18's by mistake. :rolleyes:
and your complaining? :confused:

[Wraith]

and your complaining? :confused:

+1

Amanda, were they for the same price ??? if so that's a fantastic bungle up :)

[xplosv57]

If you're in Vic, Tyre Factory can get you any wheel Tempe Tyres has on their site, which is much better dealing with someone first hand then someone interstate, can choose maybe a better tyre package, can trade in old wheels and can bargain down the set of wheels!!

[Wraith]

If you're in Vic, Tyre Factory can get you any wheel Tempe Tyres has on their site, which is much better dealing with someone first hand then someone interstate, can choose maybe a better tyre package, can trade in old wheels and can bargain down the set of wheels!!

When I got my last set of 20's (July '07) I actually tried the above - even tried at 3 different Tyre factory outlets...

Tempe were still ALOT cheaper, for the same rim/tyre wheel package, including the freight !!! they were even cheaper that what a good friend of mine who owns his own wheel shop could do...

May or may not be a different story now, you'll just have to shop around and see the best deal you can get at the time that your in the market for a set :)

[emiliok]

whats invovled in getting the rims redrilled???

[sooty]

They are simply sent away, the holes drilled to the right PCD in the existing holes, then high strength metal rings inserted into thes holes.
You'd be lucky to tell the difference unless you look very closely :)

[Wraith]

They are simply sent away, the holes drilled to the right PCD in the existing holes, then high strength metal rings inserted into thes holes.
You'd be lucky to tell the difference unless you look very closely :)

Spot on ;)

Are you sure you havn't copy/pasted those lines out of one of my many previous wheel posts :D :p

[sooty]

ahahahah...very funny :p
No, for once i actually knew :)

[HappySlapper82]

Wheel Worx in Adelaide can get any rim to suit any car ( they have custum drills and set ups on site even bolt-on spacers if you need) cheaper than anyone I know of and I work in a tyre store. I would even say they are cheaper than tempe tyres :)