spare parts - not opel/holden specific

[USC]

Are they mainly rejects from the factory? I found that spare parts are not manufactured exactly like the original parts on the car...many of them have little defects!!:confused:

[Shaun]

No they arent rejects from the factory. Opel / Holden / GM order parts for both the factory and Logisitcs / Parts Operation
from the supplyers that produce parts for them. Sometimes in transit things make get marked (IE Panels ) what are you refering to exactly thats got a little defect in it ?

[InsaneAsylum]

are you talking about "non genuine parts"?

[USC]

I am talking about genuine parts. For example, plastic interior trims have deep marks on them a lot of the times, windscreen rubbers look badly moulded, just little cosmetic things that really annoy me...haha...yeh, they probably get damaged in transit or something....also i have noticed, spareparts are a lot older than what was on the car orginally!! for example, holden sell 2005 windscreens for 2007 cars!

[Shaun]

2005 screens for 2007 ? how did you come to this concluson ??

[reedaaron]

unless they're off a wrecked car and they damaged it taking the parts off...

since our cars are "fun" to disassemble even when you know what you're doing :p

[Wraith]

No they arent rejects from the factory. Opel / Holden / GM order parts for both the factory and Logisitcs / Parts Operation
from the supplyers that produce parts for them. Sometimes in transit things make get marked (IE Panels ) what are you refering to exactly thats got a little defect in it ?


The above is correct and answers the question !

However I have occaisionally seen replacement parts on sale at dealer networks of certain makes of car which were non genuine, but sold as genuine.

Still despite this, they were defect free....

[USC]

2005 screens for 2007 ? how did you come to this concluson ??

for example I bought a windscreen for the astra and it had manufactured date as 28/05/2005 printed at the back and the original one was manufactured on 30/11/2006 (the ah has been around since 2004..hence the older spare parts as they havent changed the shape). Holden told me that they manufacture spare parts first and put them in stock. The ones that are on the car are actually manufactured "on the fly"...thats why they are newer.

Yep, a lot of the trims etc have marks and scratches from brand new. I guess it would be from transportation.

[Calibrated]

So what? as long as its not 2nd hand, its still "new". and its the right part and it does the job.

You expect a spares department to have the part manufactured for you when you order it? out the back while you wait?

EG: walk in to Domayne. ooh, i like that couch. but cant afford it now..
come back in 6 months time, its still there, they still have stock..you can afford it, so you buy it.

effectively you are buying a 6 month old couch (from date of arrival at the store, quiet likely to be closer to a year old)

The engine number in my turbo, states it is "older" than my N/A cali. but should be the other way around.

[Wraith]

When I had my '71 LC GTR Torana back in the mid eighties, I purchased some brand new genuine GMH front quarter panels, which had to come in from O/S as there were none left in oz, but the build date on them was years after the cars were made, something like 1974....there were genuine a GMH stickers and markings on them.

So in this case, spare parts of that model were still being made years after the cars production run had already ended - I'm sure this is the case for many types of cars these days too.

[USC]

cool! I was only enquiring...just makes the car look older for the pedantics..haha..specially as it has a 5 printed on the glass instead of the 6 all around...but does not matter as it does the job anyway.

[USC]

When I had my '71 LC GTR Torana back in the mid eighties, I purchased some brand new genuine GMH front quarter panels, which had to come in from O/S as there were none left in oz, but the build date on them was years after the cars were made, something like 1974....there were genuine a GMH stickers and markings on them.

So in this case, spare parts of that model were still being made years after the cars production run had already ended - I'm sure this is the case for many types of cars these days too.

yep, if u have an old car, they will have newer parts but if u have a brand new car and is unfortunate to have to replace a part, u get an older one.

[vectraguy01]

One thing i will say about Holden as when ur wanting parts, call up as many dealers as possible to check there price as u will find not all Holden dealers prices are the same, as i have found out from calling 6 different dealerships in Bris for a air flow sensor and got 6 different prices from all the dealerships, so my idea is to call all the dealers around ur place and then call independent organizations to see if you can get a better price than Holden, and i was able to find the air flow sensor less than half the price holden were charging.

[Shaun]

for example I bought a windscreen for the astra and it had manufactured date as 28/05/2005 printed at the back and the original one was manufactured on 30/11/2006 (the ah has been around since 2004..hence the older spare parts as they havent changed the shape). Holden told me that they manufacture spare parts first and put them in stock. The ones that are on the car are actually manufactured "on the fly"...thats why they are newer.

Yep, a lot of the trims etc have marks and scratches from brand new. I guess it would be from transportation.

Stock piles of parts arent un common. There are a couple of methods Manfacturers tend to use.

The Europeans tend to work on the First in first out theory. Where Parts Inventroys are dated and checked for how long they have been sitting in storage. The items are sent out on the oldest stock to newest stock. IE you have ten windscreens in stock. one dated 5/2004 the other 6/2007 they will always send out the 5/2004 1st as this part is costing them in interest on floor plan.

Japanese work on the " Just in time " method. The parts arrive on the line at the moment they are fitted to the vehicle. Meaning they are unpacked from the box about ten seconds before they are fitted to the vehicle. As for Inventory sides of things they work on bare min stock levels and order as the sell them to replace.

IE 20000 filters in stock. the sell 15000 filters in a month the order them when they hit 5000 filters because by the time they sell the 5000 fliters left they will be back to the 20000 stock holding.



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[USC]

Stock piles of parts arent un common. There are a couple of methods Manfacturers tend to use.

The Europeans tend to work on the First in first out theory. Where Parts Inventroys are dated and checked for how long they have been sitting in storage. The items are sent out on the oldest stock to newest stock. IE you have ten windscreens in stock. one dated 5/2004 the other 6/2007 they will always send out the 5/2004 1st as this part is costing them in interest on floor plan.

Japanese work on the " Just in time " method. The parts arrive on the line at the moment they are fitted to the vehicle. Meaning they are unpacked from the box about ten seconds before they are fitted to the vehicle. As for Inventory sides of things they work on bare min stock levels and order as the sell them to replace.

IE 20000 filters in stock. the sell 15000 filters in a month the order them when they hit 5000 filters because by the time they sell the 5000 fliters left they will be back to the 20000 stock holding.



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yeh you are right! I also noticed that when I had a nissan...spare parts were new and dated the same year as I bought them...
its not a big deal but I like the parts date to be the same or very close to manufacture date stamped on the plate. I noticed that some wiring are also dated 2005 on a 2007 astra sriT...they must have manufactured HEAPS of parts for the astra back then...funny that they had parts for the turbo model already in 2005! or they must share the same parts.

[Shaun]

Wiring harness are the same. its the software used in the computers that are different.

The SRi T has been round in the AH overseas since they came out. We in Australia are a smaller market and we tend to get vehicles a couple of years after there release else where in the world.

As for being right i knew i was. I work in the Automotive industry as a Parts Interpreter where i have done an Apprenticeship as an Automotive Parts Specialist / Interpreter.

[USC]

hey Shaun...not related to this topic but is that debadged astra in the pic yours? looks good :) one thing...how did u get the rear wiper arm to sit in the opposite direction??

[Shaun]

USC,
Its my car... Talk to Loudski he done the signature. He reveresed the picture some how....

Yes its debadged as the VXR dont come with a rear marking badge. (Well on the chrome strip they do a HSV Basge and VXR on on the other side.)

[RudeOne]

hey Shaun...not related to this topic but is that debadged astra in the pic yours? looks good :) one thing...how did u get the rear wiper arm to sit in the opposite direction??

You have a very keen eye - i have looked at shauns sig about 1000 times and never noticed the wiper on the opposite side!!

[USC]

USC,
Its my car... Talk to Loudski he done the signature. He reveresed the picture some how....

Yes its debadged as the VXR dont come with a rear marking badge. (Well on the chrome strip they do a HSV Basge and VXR on on the other side.)

ah yes, I forgot that the HSV does not come with rear badge...looks a lot neater:D ...been looking at too many opels and vauxhalls...hahaha:p

[USC]

You have a very keen eye - i have looked at shauns sig about 1000 times and never noticed the wiper on the opposite side!!


haha...it could be a bad thing as I notice too many things....:p