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SRI Wannabe
24th October 2007, 04:11 PM
Was looking thru the latest astra catalogue, got to the specs page and in the service section, the timing belt change on the 1.8's and diesel are now 150,000k :confused: , and 120,000k for the turbo models so the AH series 2 can get another 90,000k out of it, what on earth did they do different to get another 90,000k out of a belt, what is it titanium coated? lol

D@N
24th October 2007, 04:21 PM
Are the 7's different to the 7.5???

USC
24th October 2007, 04:25 PM
Are the 7's different to the 7.5???


YES. Even the windscreen is made from different material....but still looks exactly the same.

RE: timing belt:I guess you could always buy the timing belt for the MY7.5 to put in the MY7.

USC
24th October 2007, 04:26 PM
lol..try ask Holden what is different in the new series..Im sure they will provide you valuable information.:D

tuzinski
24th October 2007, 04:39 PM
lol..try ask Holden what is different in the new series..Im sure they will provide you valuable information.:D
for a cost of course :p:p

SRI Wannabe
24th October 2007, 04:41 PM
that's the funniest thing I have heard today USC! lol

USC
24th October 2007, 04:48 PM
Thats what a review of the my7.5 says:

HOLDEN comprehensively addressed the mainstream AH Astra CD and CDX hatch and wagon models’ biggest weak point – their lack of oomph from the 90kW/165Nm 1.8-litre ECOTEC four-cylinder engine – with a heavily revised 1.8-litre unit.

Known as the 1.8 XER, it delivers 103kW of power at 6300rpm and 175Nm of torque (that’s for the manual; auto: 170Nm) at 3800rpm. Both engines are married to a five-speed manual or four-speed automatic gearbox.

Minor cosmetic changes accompanied the reengineering, including a new grille, front bumper, lower air intake and headlight surrounds, as well as an upgrade in the trim materials used.

Meanwhile, a new non-turbo SRI hatchback model was introduced, using a 110kW/210Nm 2.2-litre direct-injection petrol four-cylinder engine. Gearbox choices are a four-speed auto or six-speed manual.

This engine also powered the AH Astra TwinTop, Holden’s four-seater retractable hardtop convertible answer to the Peugeot 307 CC, Renault Megane CC and Ford Focus Convertible. It replaced the popular TS Astra Convertible.

All other AH Series II cars – including the 1.9-litre CDTi turbo-diesel, and 2.0-litre turbo-charged petrol models – remained the same mechanically. ----->BULLSHIT

Sadly, the impressive AH Astra wagon still misses out on the diesel and 2.0 and 2.2 petrol powerplants, having to make do with the upgraded 1.8.

CJB
24th October 2007, 05:27 PM
WHOA! Does this mean the AH has a timing belt and not a timing chain, therefore need replacing?

Holy cow.

USC
24th October 2007, 05:56 PM
WHOA! Does this mean the AH has a timing belt and not a timing chain, therefore need replacing?

Holy cow.


since when did the AH have a timing chain???:confused:

skulless
24th October 2007, 06:12 PM
yes, i saw that in my brochure as well and remembered someone in here posted timing belt replacement not too long ago. mine's a 7.5 btw

cbrmale
25th October 2007, 11:18 AM
The 2.2 has a timing chain which doesn't need replacement; it also has platinum sparkplugs with a life of 120,000km.

All other Astras have timing belts. I know from experience that belt changes are expensive: there are lots of parts that must be removed including one of the engine mounts, and the belt itself is worth a couple of hundred dollars. With a previous car which had 90,000km timing belt change intervals, I got the dealer to replace the external (waterpump / alternator, power steering and airconditioning) drive belts as precautionary maintenance (they had to be removed in any case), and I kept the old belts as spares.

CJB
25th October 2007, 01:07 PM
since when did the AH have a timing chain???:confused:
I am shocked too, so I checked my service book last night, at 90,000kms it has to be done.

I dont understand, why!!! WHY. The 04 Barina's, BARINA'S came with a chain, so why can't the 06, 07 Astra come with it too!

sh1t!

Huhness
25th October 2007, 01:30 PM
I am shocked too, so I checked my service book last night, at 90,000kms it has to be done.

I dont understand, why!!! WHY. The 04 Barina's, BARINA'S came with a chain, so why can't the 06, 07 Astra come with it too!

sh1t!
since when did the barina have a timing chain???:confused:

USC
25th October 2007, 03:07 PM
I am shocked too, so I checked my service book last night, at 90,000kms it has to be done.

I dont understand, why!!! WHY. The 04 Barina's, BARINA'S came with a chain, so why can't the 06, 07 Astra come with it too!

sh1t!


I asked myself this question millions of times too...dum opel engineers..90k..come on..even hyundais get higher kms out of the factory timing belt!!

well, better sell her b4 she hits 90k:D

cbrmale
26th October 2007, 02:32 PM
My wife has a 2004 Barina, and the timing BELT has to be changed every 60,000. I had a 2000 Hyundai Elantra XD, and the belt had to be changed at 90,000.

SRI Wannabe
26th October 2007, 02:38 PM
Ok according to a holden rep, (I take this as a grain of salt atm) now the 1.8l has variable camshaft phasing on both camshafts the belt doesn't have to work/drive the motor as hard as previous 1.8's, I'm still unsure but that's what they told me so meh.

USC
26th October 2007, 02:57 PM
Ok according to a holden rep, (I take this as a grain of salt atm) now the 1.8l has variable camshaft phasing on both camshafts the belt doesn't have to work/drive the motor as hard as previous 1.8's, I'm still unsure but that's what they told me so meh.


yep, that is true..that`s why the new 1.8L has 100kw or something compared to 92KW for the pre 2007 model. But i am not sure if that is why the belt will last longer!! the sri-t still has same kws but timing belt change intervals is evey 120km right?

shoey85
26th October 2007, 08:24 PM
my cdti is not a 7.5 (built late 06) and its 150k for the timing belt etc

CJB
27th October 2007, 12:09 PM
since when did the barina have a timing chain???:confused:
My 04.5 had one...

so did Dug74's...

USC
27th October 2007, 12:41 PM
I wonder why they went back to timing belt...may be it was too noisy..hehe

EL BURITO
27th October 2007, 01:16 PM
My 04.5 had one...

so did Dug74's...
AS dose my MY04

SRI Wannabe
27th October 2007, 02:15 PM
my cdti is not a 7.5 (built late 06) and its 150k for the timing belt etc

Brochure aside does your manual specifically state this? if so new AH owners can smile happy :D

MitchSRi
27th October 2007, 02:24 PM
Woot SRi here .. no pesky timing belt replacement for moi :D

Oh and wouldnt the timing chain lifespan be due to the different engines?

shoey85
27th October 2007, 09:51 PM
Brochure aside does your manual specifically state this? if so new AH owners can smile happy :D


yes the service book has it as every150k

SRI Wannabe
29th October 2007, 05:48 PM
yes the service book has it as every150k

Thanks shoey :)

Mitch, shut up :p

The new engine does have it's perks :dance:

trinijy
29th October 2007, 06:14 PM
I have a 7.5 CDX and it came with a service booklet (printed Oct 06) that still uses the old engine code (Z18XE) and specifies a time belt change at 90,000km.

Called up Parra Heartland and a service guy said the booklet came with the car so he'd go with what's on the booklet than the catalogue.

Anybody who owns a 7.5 and has a different version of the service booklet?

USC
29th October 2007, 06:19 PM
I have a 7.5 CDX and it came with a service booklet (printed Oct 06) that still uses the old engine code (Z18XE) and specifies a time belt change at 90,000km.

Called up Parra Heartland and a service guy said the booklet came with the car so he'd go with what's on the booklet than the catalogue.

Anybody who owns a 7.5 and has a different version of the service booklet?

You probably got gibbed and did not get a My7.5. What is your vin number? it shows whether the car is a my7 or my7.5.

oh by the way. i think the booklets are printed here...so holden have have stuffed it up...chk your VIN.

trinijy
29th October 2007, 06:25 PM
You probably got gibbed and did not get a My7.5. What is your vin number? it shows whether the car is a my7 or my7.5.

oh by the way. i think the booklets are printed here...so holden have have stuffed it up...chk your VIN.

I'm pretty sure it's MY 7.5.
VIN W0L0AHL4875xxxxxx
engine Z18XERxxxxxxxxx

USC
29th October 2007, 06:48 PM
I'm pretty sure it's MY 7.5.
VIN W0L0AHL4875xxxxxx
engine Z18XERxxxxxxxxx


very strange that you got the old engine and old booklet!! Holden is so dodgy!
may be the new engine has the same code just different numbers at the end.

Check another my7.5 at ur dealership...

u should have got the 102kw engine.....

trinijy
29th October 2007, 07:03 PM
very strange that you got the old engine and old booklet!! Holden is so dodgy!
may be the new engine has the same code just different numbers at the end.

Check another my7.5 at ur dealership...

u should have got the 102kw engine.....

I think Z18XER is the new 103kw engine

USC
29th October 2007, 07:07 PM
I think Z18XER is the new 103kw engine


then timing belt change should be very 120000km....

trinijy
29th October 2007, 07:15 PM
then timing belt change should be very 120000km....

Do you have a newer service booklet to confirm?

USC
29th October 2007, 09:01 PM
I have a jan07 booklet and I only have the Z18XE in mine (90km timing belt service). My my07 sri-t is every 120km....:D...this is the same for all sri-ts I think.