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btm
27th September 2007, 08:54 AM
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=43823&s_rid=smh:ClassiePuff

VW Scirocco: Golf coupe exposed

Volkswagen’s first dedicated coupe for more than a decade has been caught testing at the famous Nurburgring track in Germany.

Drive’s spy pictures confirm the Golf-based Volkswagen Scirocco coupe will be near identical to the daring Iroc concept that previewed the new VW at the 2006 Paris motor show.

The front and rear camouflage can’t disguise a body shape that in 2008 will become the lowest, sportiest-looking car in Volkswagen’s line-up.

The third-generation Volkswagen Scirroco - the original version debuted in 1974 - will have similar dimensions to the Iroc concept, making it slightly longer than a Golf. A longer wheelbase and wider tracks aim to give the coupe sportier handling than a Golf GTI.

Engines are expected to include the GTI’s 147kW 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol as well as a 125kW 2.0-litre diesel and 125kW and 103kW versions of the company’s clever 1.4-litre ‘twin-charger’ four-cylinder. The Iroc concept was powered by a 155kW 1.4-litre version of this petrol engine that employs both a supercharger and turbocharger for improved performance throughout the rev range.

It’s possible Volkswagen will also slot a V6 into the Scirocco, choosing from either the Golf R32’s 184kW 3.2-litre or forthcoming Passat R36’s 220kW 3.6-litre unit. A six-cylinder would certainly be teamed with Volkswagen’s 4Motion all-wheel-drive system.

Transmissions will include a six-speed manual and the new, seven-speed version of VW’s highly regarded dual-clutch DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox) system.

The Volkswagen Iroc concept’s distinctive, hexagonal grille - comprising honeycombe-style mesh like the Golf GTI - is visible through the Scirocco prototype’s front-end camouflage, and our pictures also suggest the headlights will follow the slanted angle of those on the Iroc. Foglights replace the concept car’s brake-cooling air intakes.

While the new grille is a departure from current VWs, the German company has said in future it wants to use "different Volkswagen faces for specific models and segments".

The new Volkswagen Scirocco’s interior will also differ from the Golf hatchback and other related vehicles such as the Eos coupe-convertible. One of our spy pictures reveals a silver-rimmed air vent shaped to tie-in with the hexagonal grille and also seen in the Iroc’s cabin.

As with the original Scirocco and Iroc concept, the production car will be a four-seater. The rear seats will fold down to create a cargo capacity of about 300 litres.

Volkswagen will launch the Scirocco in late 2008, when it will become the first VW coupe since the 1995 Corrado, which along with the first- and second-generation Sciroccos was never sold in Australia. Another preview car might be shown at next March’s Geneva motor show.

Australia is unlikely to see the Volkswagen Scirocco coupe until early 2009, when prices can be expected to be pitched above identically powered Golfs.

btm
27th September 2007, 08:56 AM
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2343/vw09scirocco06iroc3ee3.jpg

btm
27th September 2007, 08:58 AM
It’s possible Volkswagen will also slot a V6 into the Scirocco, choosing from either the Golf R32’s 184kW 3.2-litre or forthcoming Passat R36’s 220kW 3.6-litre unit. A six-cylinder would certainly be teamed with Volkswagen’s 4Motion all-wheel-drive system.
imagine a 4WD 220kW 3.6L in it.... holy **** :eek:

Calibrated
27th September 2007, 09:00 AM
I see a bit of Volvo C30 and Lancer Evo X in there...
definitely NOT a coupe. thats a 3dr hatch.

btm
27th September 2007, 09:11 AM
I see a bit of Volvo C30 and Lancer Evo X in there...
definitely NOT a coupe. thats a 3dr hatch.

that may not be the correct picture from the article. the pics in the article for some reason dont work on my pc.

that pic above is from a google search, maybe someone can get a pic from the article and post it up

Wraith
27th September 2007, 09:22 AM
imagine a 4WD 220kW 3.6L in it.... holy **** :eek:

Looks interesting, the rear end looks a little strange, we'll have to wait and see it when it's finally exposed....

BTW IMO nothing 'too' impressive about its powerplant install and power, the new Evo X and '08 Sti will still chomp it up :D

However if they decided to go forced induction on that 3.6ltr, well then now we're talking :)

Calibrated
27th September 2007, 09:25 AM
that may not be the correct picture from the article. the pics in the article for some reason dont work on my pc.

that pic above is from a google search, maybe someone can get a pic from the article and post it up
thats the right pic you posted up. there's that one and a white one.
but you can clearly see that its not a coupe..

a coupe is basically a 2 door sedan. that is a 3dr hatch.

rjastra
27th September 2007, 06:36 PM
..

a coupe is basically a 2 door sedan. that is a 3dr hatch.

Ironic on the Opel forum where the 3 door Astra is called a Coupe ;)

Since when was the Scirroco to be considered a STi/Evo competitor?

bill142
27th September 2007, 06:45 PM
Ironic on the Opel forum where the 3 door Astra is called a Coupe ;)

Since when was the Scirroco to be considered a STi/Evo competitor?

Only by holden Opel/Vauxhall call it a Sports Hatch ;)

bill142
27th September 2007, 06:48 PM
I see some C30 in it, I also see a bit of a BMW 6/7 Series tail in it.

Wraith
27th September 2007, 10:28 PM
It definitely has some Volvo in it's rear end look ;)

rjastra, if it gets a 220kw engine and AWD and is classed a hot hatch and no doubt in such trim and being a VW it's price will be well and truly 'up there', then how can it not come into competition with say Subarus Sti ??

In such a comparison, looks are each to their own, the VW will no doubt have the better creature comforts and kit, but I'm going with the Sti on performance and value for money :)

rjastra
28th September 2007, 10:24 AM
It definitely has some Volvo in it's rear end look ;)

rjastra, if it gets a 220kw engine and AWD and is classed a hot hatch and no doubt in such trim and being a VW it's price will be well and truly 'up there', then how can it not come into competition with say Subarus Sti ??

In such a comparison, looks are each to their own, the VW will no doubt have the better creature comforts and kit, but I'm going with the Sti on performance and value for money :)

It will be classed the same as the R32 and the BMW 130i/135i. None of them get compared to the Evo/STi.

Judging buy rthe cost of an R32 there is every chance a R36 version of the Scirocco would be in the same ballpark as a STi ro EVoX. But I doubt it would satisfy the same market.

Vectracious
28th September 2007, 10:32 AM
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/Vectracious/Opelaus/26Scirocco4_m_m.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/Vectracious/Opelaus/26Scirocco2_m_m_m.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/Vectracious/Opelaus/26Scirocco3_m_m.jpg

These are the pics from the Drive article - unless VW is deliberately trying to trick people about the rear end, that is definately a 3 door hatchback, not a coupe.

btm
28th September 2007, 10:58 AM
these are more coupe-ish

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5016/2010compactcoupelineup1ru6.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/962/carphoto2074317ga4.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2465/f2b8be41960b4c2c9b10a89cw7.jpg

rjastra
28th September 2007, 11:02 AM
These are the pics from the Drive article - unless VW is deliberately trying to trick people about the rear end, that is definately a 3 door hatchback, not a coupe.

VW? Isn't it the authors of the article giving it that tag?

Tfer
28th September 2007, 11:32 AM
I like how it looks like a Volvo C30 from the rear.... :D

Vectracious
28th September 2007, 12:17 PM
VW? Isn't it the authors of the article giving it that tag?

Did the Drive authors also camouflage the prototype?

I didn't have a go at VW for calling it a coupe, because they didn't. VW however they have put a whole lot of black crap over the backend to mislead and confuse the public and other car manufacturers about whether the Scirocco is going to be a 3D hatch, or a genuine coupe.

Wraith
28th September 2007, 02:51 PM
these are more coupe-ish

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5016/2010compactcoupelineup1ru6.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/962/carphoto2074317ga4.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2465/f2b8be41960b4c2c9b10a89cw7.jpg

Now that's more like it..........pics 1 and 3 FTW !!!! :)

rjastra
28th September 2007, 03:29 PM
VW however they have put a whole lot of black crap over the backend to mislead and confuse the public and other car manufacturers about whether the Scirocco is going to be a 3D hatch, or a genuine coupe.

Isn't that what manufacturers normally do on development mules? Or have I missed something?

Unless it's going to have styling along the lines of the BMW 135I Coupe then the new Scirocco (based on the IROC concept car) was never going to be a coupe in the "traditional" sense of the word.
The rising waist line and truncated length hardly lends itself to a separate boot as opposed to a hatch.

Coupe:
a car with two doors and front seats and a luggage compartment


Pretty broad definition.