Volvo C30.

[Shaun]

Has anyone looked at the Volvo C30 on the Volvo Website?

Ive been looking and i think it looks good from the front just not that fussed on the rear of the car.

Whats everyones Thoughts?

Will say though that i have wanted a Volvo for a while. it could be the other Choice to the VXR .

Would have to test drive one


Shaun

[Mainframe_Module]

i love the c30, the problem for me is that the version that would be in my price range....well...closest to my price range, isnt coming here until the end of the year.
that and insurance for it would probably be painful.

but yeah, i love the c30.

[jvl]

I too looked with interest at the details of the C30 for my next car (still a few years away) in comparison to the VXR.

Ended up removing it from my list as:
1. VXR has more power
2. VXR looks better (the C30 is hideous at the rear)
3. VXR handles better... from one of the reviews I read the handling of the C30 is better than the average road car but doesnt compare to the better hot hatches available on the road.

Also I believe that the C30 is more expensive.... and its a Volvo ;)
(well actually is a Focus XR5 in a Volvo skin)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnrOFlNfzc0 <-- fifth gear video review

[Mainframe_Module]

i thought the focus xr5 was a volvo in ford skin? considoring the 5 cyl engine is volvo and all.... *shrug*

[blueraven]

volva are making top notch cars these days...quality is up there with audi/bmw/merc etc.

[jvl]

i thought the focus xr5 was a volvo in ford skin? considoring the 5 cyl engine is volvo and all.... *shrug*

that could be the case... I was under the impression that Ford built the Focus but just borrowed the T5 engine for the ST/XR5 model

[bones]

Actually, I believe it was Mazda who designed the C1 platform that is shared between the Mazda3, Focus and C30/S40/V50/C70, which made it easy to put the ovlov 5-T engine into the Focus. C30 looks like a great car and could very easily be my next in a few years.

[Calibrated]

The Volvo C30 is a compact near-luxury car (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Compact_near-luxury_car&action=edit) produced by the Volvo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_Cars) division of Ford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Motor_Company)'s Premier Automotive Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Automotive_Group). The C30 is a three-door, four-seat hatchback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatchback) powered by I4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4) and I5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-5) engines. Despite the name, the car is the hatchback version of the S40 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_S40)/V50 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_V50)/C70 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_C70) luxury vehicle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle) range and therefore uses the same Ford C1 platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_C1_platform) as its siblings.
The production car was officially unveiled at the 2006 Paris Motor Show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondial_de_l%27Automobile_2006).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_C30#_note-0) In mid-2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), the C30 was approved for production launch in late 2006 in Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe). The C30 will also be introduced in the U.S. market in October as a 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008) model year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_year), with the T5 as the single version.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_C30#_note-1) It is being marketed as a premium hatchback specially designed for first-time Volvo buyers and the youth market, with the BMW 1 Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_1_Series), Volkswagen Golf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Golf), Audi A3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_A3), and Mini Cooper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Cooper) as its main rivals. Production is expected to be 65,000 units a year, 75% for sale in the European (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe) market.

[Calibrated]

The C1 platform (for "Compact-class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_size_class)") is Ford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Motor_Company)'s global compact car (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_car) automobile platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_platform). It replaces (and is loosely based on) Ford's C170 platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_C170_platform) and Mazda's BJ platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_B_platform). The C1 platform debuted with the European (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European) Ford Focus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus) C-Max compact MPV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_MPV) in early 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004). The platform is designed for either front- (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_wheel_drive) or all wheel drive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_wheel_drive).
The C platform was designed in Cologne, Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne%2C_Germany) as the "C Technologies Program". Thirty engineers each from Mazda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda), Ford, and Volvo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_Cars) worked to combine the compact car engineering from all three automakers. This is especially beneficial as each manufacturer involved assisted in certain areas that they are well known for, Volvo with safety, Mazda with handling, and Ford with cost cutting.

[EL BURITO]

Looks hot but that grill would need changed and there is still the stigma of driving a Volvo.

[Calibrated]

Love that last bit


This is especially beneficial as each manufacturer involved assisted in certain areas that they are well known for, Volvo with safety, Mazda with handling, and Ford with cost cutting.

[Shaun]

I too looked with interest at the details of the C30 for my next car (still a few years away) in comparison to the VXR.

Ended up removing it from my list as:
1. VXR has more power
2. VXR looks better (the C30 is hideous at the rear)
3. VXR handles better... from one of the reviews I read the handling of the C30 is better than the average road car but doesnt compare to the better hot hatches available on the road.

Also I believe that the C30 is more expensive.... and its a Volvo ;)
(well actually is a Focus XR5 in a Volvo skin)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnrOFlNfzc0 <-- fifth gear video review

Yes those points Maybe the case but have you ever driven a Volvo at all ? I have driven many of Volvo's products and to say the least they are quick. And no they share the same platform and engine . that is about it. Ford Use a Volvo Engine not the other way round.

[Calibrated]

Yes those points Maybe the case but have you ever driven a Volvo at all ? I have driven many of Volvo's products and to say the least they are quick. And no they share the same platform and engine . that is about it. Ford Use a Volvo Engine not the other way round.

before i bought my astra i was seriously on the case for an S4.
awesomely quick.very comfortable.

[Wraith]

I like it - in fact I've liked most Volvo's as of late....they are slowly becomming more and more stylish, give em a few more years and they'll be well and truly up there !

As BR said, they are as good as many other top Euro marks in terms of quality, so I don't think you'd go wrong in that respect, the only con is that they are pricey, but given the choice, I'd go a Volvo anyday over say a similarily priced SAAB ;)

As for power, remember that the 2.5ltr 5 potter they're using has huge tuning potential - there is a local Xr5 here running over 240kw and it wasn't difficult getting it tuned to that power level ;)

[bill142]

Saw it at the motorshow last year. I'm quite interested. Alot will depend of prcing. Hopefully it is priced below the Audi A3 and BMW 1 Series, if it is, it will steal sales. It will most probably be priced above the Astra, Focus and Mazda3. The UK base model costs $36,000 AUD.

[SSS_Hoon]

Volvo are one of the big sleeper performance cars that not many ppl think or worry about.

and they are tring to get into the market and once they do break through they will be big that is for sure.

they have the performance and quality semi down just gotta get the looks now.

my 2cents anyway.


SSS_Hoon

[Wraith]

Saw it at the motorshow last year. I'm quite interested. Alot will depend of prcing. Hopefully it is priced below the Audi A3 and BMW 1 Series, if it is, it will steal sales. It will most probably be priced above the Astra, Focus and Mazda3. The UK base model costs $36,000 AUD.

I think you'll find it'll definitely be priced below the top spec Beemer 1 series cars and definitely less than the Audi A3 :)

[Wraith]

Volvo are one of the big sleeper performance cars that not many ppl think or worry about.

and they are tring to get into the market and once they do break through they will be big that is for sure.

they have the performance and quality semi down just gotta get the looks now.

my 2cents anyway.


SSS_Hoon

Totally agree.........

Remember the old adds by Peter Brock pushing the turbo wagons years back !!!

One thing he said will always stick in my mind - "these are very quick cars"

[Shaun]

Totally agree.........

Remember the old adds by Peter Brock pushing the turbo wagons years back !!!

One thing he said will always stick in my mind - "these are very quick cars"

Ohh no doubt about Volvos are quick. After working for them for over two year and my dad working for them and having a Turbo Varants for Company cars i know they have plenty of get up and go and they sound good too. (hence why i like the XR5T)

[Mainframe_Module]

C30 S $34,450 (five-speed manual)
C30 S $35,950 (five-speed automatic)
C30 LE $38,450 (five-speed manual)
C30 LE $39,950 (five-speed automatic)
C30 T5 $42,450 (six-speed manual)
C30 T5 $43,950 (five-speed automatic)
C30 D5 $42,450 (six-speed manual)
C30 D5 $43,950 (five-speed automatic)

s and le have 2.4L 5cyl, T5 is turbocharged 2.55cyl and D5 is Diesel...i think its turbo.

but yeah, as i said earlier in the thread, the S models and Diesels arent coming out here until oct or so.
and the S is the only one id be able to afford and even then it would be a pretty big stretch...so its the astra for me.

maybe next car :)

[Shaun]

T5 i would consider. But would have to pay Luxury Car tax when buying it . its the only down side to it

[Mainframe_Module]

isnt luxury car tax over 50-60k?

hmm..ah well,

[EL BURITO]

isnt luxury car tax over 50-60k?

hmm..ah well,
I thought it was or a SS would class as a luxury car and i dont think it is

[dieselhead]

i am sure the luxury cars tax treshold is $57k. look at the price of Evo and STi, that'll tell ya :D

[RudeOne]

i am sure the luxury cars tax treshold is $57k. look at the price of Evo and STi, that'll tell ya :D

57k is the limit

http://www.ato.gov.au/nonprofit/content.asp?doc=/content/13288.htm&page=4&H4

[Wraith]

Yep, that's the correct figure...

That amount and over and your slugged 5% stamp duty on the 'entire' cost of a new vehicle instead of 4% :( rotten scoundrels :mad:

[SSS_Hoon]

there is away around it though as the person who first registers it pays for it.

so if its a demo you dont gotta pay it heheheh very very sneaky.


SSS_Hoon

[Wraith]

True that, but we've all got our likes or dislikes regarding buying an ex-demo :rolleyes:

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't buy any type of ex-demo performance car....

It's been thrashed by everyone who's sat in it since day one - true there might be nothing wrong with it, but it still don't sit comfortable with me...

[Mr T]

there is away around it though as the person who first registers it pays for it.

so if its a demo you dont gotta pay it heheheh very very sneaky.


SSS_Hoon

If its an ex demo the LCT is calculated on the sale price to the first "real" owner and not the original rego value that the dealer declared.

LCT is also calculated on used cars and works like this (in NSW):

((Sale Price + Dealer Delivery + Accessories - 57,000) / 1.1) X 25%

Also Stampduty rises from 3% to 5% at 45,000.

Understand that neither of these two taxes are retrospective.

So the trick is to install accessories AFTER delivery if you are subjected to LCT or "undernet" your trade in - meaning to take a lower trade in figure and a lower purchase price.

[Wraith]

That's a very good point Mr T and one I forgot to mention.......

ie: if your buying a new car, definitely have your accessories/options installed/recieved after you take delivery of the car, saves alot of $$$ as the cost of these is not included on the total car cost and you dont pay the stamp duty on them :)

Most dealers are willing to oblige, as long as they get the sale.....

I've done this with my new car purchases up til now and it's saved me thousands ;)

[SSS_Hoon]

well im just going by what happened with my parents car is all they got the terrortory ghia awd brand new fully optioned i mean everything from the drink bottle to the side steps blah blah blah.

Later found about the lux tax and all that jazz the dealer said dont worry we can register it as a demo and you dont gotta pay it so they did and got a bargain.


SSS_Hoon

[Mr T]

Was it over $57,000 before on-roads?

Anyway, Just been lurking some C30 forums and found that the D5 engine is 136KW 350NM and is capable of 160KW and 440NM with a tune with standard boost settings. T5 is 163KW 320NM...bit light on I think, 190-200 is what it needs to give the market a punch.

[SSS_Hoon]

yeah it was just under 60k

post a link with some pics of this said c30 as i tried the volvo website and all i got was biscuits????


SSS_Hoon

[Wraith]

Was it over $57,000 before on-roads?

Anyway, Just been lurking some C30 forums and found that the D5 engine is 136KW 350NM and is capable of 160KW and 440NM with a tune with standard boost settings. T5 is 163KW 320NM...bit light on I think, 190-200 is what it needs to give the market a punch.

Agree despite the torque, the oilers run out of breath too soon ! you'd want at least 160kw.

The T5 is the same engine as used in the Xr5 petrol Turbo, it can be tuned to well over the power of the D5 with similar torque.

What would be nice is 240kw with that torque, there's a local Xr5 with those numbers :)

Don't know why they even bother with the T4 - 2.4ltr petrol turbo :rolleyes:

Just wait for and buy the new Evo 10 - it'll have those exact numbers straight off the showroom floor, ie: 240kw and 441nm :D and the eventual tuning potential will be awesome :)